The Spinoff and Spark proudly present Pod On The Couch, a weekly podcast exploring music and the people that make it. This episode: Henry Oliver talks to Kate Robertson and Matthew McAuley about some recent pop music highlights.

Spinoff Music editor Henry Oliver talks to contributors Kate Robertson and Matthew McAuley about Taylor Swift’s return, Charli XCX’s triumph, indie’s dad-rock phase, Frank Ocean’s unassailability, and Soundcloud rap’s problematic heroes.

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Listen to some of the songs we talk about here:

And, for a summary of some of some of the issues surrounding rap’s new violent stars here. And a broader introduction to Soundcloud rap, including a peep into Lil Peep here.

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