The Real Pod

The Spinoff presents a weekly pop culture podcast tackling everything from reality TV to real life here in New Zealand, hosted by Jane Yee and The Spinoff’s Duncan Greive and Alex Casey.

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27 March 2020

The Real Pod: Our very first lockdown podcast

The Real Pod assembles (virtually) to dissect the penultimate week of The Bachelorette NZ, except this time we are in a national lockdown. The lads on The Bachelorette NZ knew all about what it was like to be in lockdown, so in a lot of ways we should have been prepared for this. Coming at you […]

The Real Pod assembles (virtually) to dissect the penultimate week of The Bachelorette NZ, except this time we are in a national lockdown.  The lads on The Bachelorette NZ knew all about what it was like to be in lockdown, so in a lot of ways we should have been… The Real Pod assembles (virtually) to dissect the penultimate week of The Bachelorette NZ, except this time we are in a national lockdown.  The lads on The Bachelorette NZ knew all about what it was like to be in lockdown, so in a lot of ways we should have been prepared for this. Coming at you via our individual houses on day one of national lockdown, we have no choice to return to doing what we do best: recapping reality television. It was hometown week on The Bachelorette NZ, back when domestic travel was encouraged and hugging was a normal way of greeting people. Logan's Mum was incredible, AMOG's dad spilled all and Jesse's brother seemed to be gunning for The Bachelor NZ in 2021. Join us for a little bit of normalcy in a weird, weird world. And remember: stay inside and watch telly.  

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20 March 2020

The Real Pod: Escaping into The Bachelorette NZ and Logan’s scary notebook

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the seventh week of The Bachelorette NZ, with special thanks to Nando’s.The good news is that we are all back in the same country for the first time in a long time, the bad news is that it is definitely not because of The Right Reasons. In a snap […]

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the seventh week of The Bachelorette NZ, with special thanks to Nando’s. The good news is that we are all back in the same country for the first time in a long time, the bad news is that it is definitely not because of… The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the seventh week of The Bachelorette NZ, with special thanks to Nando’s. The good news is that we are all back in the same country for the first time in a long time, the bad news is that it is definitely not because of The Right Reasons. In a snap decision, Jane left LAX for New Zealand 48 hours ago and recaps her journey home for us in these freaky times of Covid-19. It's a better time than ever to travel to our alternate reality in Argentina, where the boys are still pulling down pants and popping grapes willy-nilly. Mike and Michael decided they were done with Lesina's grilling, Logan had a revealing session with his notebook and AMOG has come completely loose at the seams. It's The Real Pod, and it's still real. For now.

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13 March 2020

The Real Pod: Join us in the gratitude circle of The Bachelorette NZ

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the sixth week of The Bachelorette NZ, with special thanks to Nando’s.In this trying times of global chaos and social distancing, we welcome you to join our digital gratitude circle and recap the last week on The Bachelorette NZ. These were happier times when the swimming was synchronised, the […]

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the sixth week of The Bachelorette NZ, with special thanks to Nando’s. In this trying times of global chaos and social distancing, we welcome you to join our digital gratitude circle and recap the last week on The Bachelorette NZ. These were happier times… The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the sixth week of The Bachelorette NZ, with special thanks to Nando’s. In this trying times of global chaos and social distancing, we welcome you to join our digital gratitude circle and recap the last week on The Bachelorette NZ. These were happier times when the swimming was synchronised, the chicken nibbles were realistic looking and Michael's root vegetable was hanging out for all the world to see. AMOG has completely come undone, Jesse is permanently rarked and Liam is officially veto-ed. In real news, Duncan played Alex's mum at Scrabble and got caned, Jane is in the thick of California Coronavirus chaos and Alex is wearing a wig. We also desperately have to talk about whatever the hell is going on with MAFS AU. It's The Real Pod, and it's real as hell.

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6 March 2020

The Real Pod: The Bachelorette NZ moves to Big Dad’s farm

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the fifth week of The Bachelorette NZ, with special thanks to Nando’s.The boys have escaped jail for the Argentinian countryside this week, complete with rabbit hunting and a whole lot of prickles. Steve tries to serenade his way to a kiss, Liam goes on a jean short journey and […]

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the fifth week of The Bachelorette NZ, with special thanks to Nando’s. The boys have escaped jail for the Argentinian countryside this week, complete with rabbit hunting and a whole lot of prickles. Steve tries to serenade his way to a kiss, Liam goes… The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the fifth week of The Bachelorette NZ, with special thanks to Nando’s. The boys have escaped jail for the Argentinian countryside this week, complete with rabbit hunting and a whole lot of prickles. Steve tries to serenade his way to a kiss, Liam goes on a jean short journey and Mike finally lets down those handsome walls. Logan is writing a rom-com, Jesse is writing poetry and Michael is still trying to write the perfect cake recipe. On the pod, things are evolving too. Duncan has changed his mind (again) about Richie, Jane needs to go to hospitable with a chronic case of missing Tavita-itis and Alex has some more feelings about eggs. It's The Real Pod and it's about as real as it gets.

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27 February 2020

The Real Pod: In which we deeply respect the culture of The Bachelorette NZ

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the cultured fourth week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s.This week on The Bachelorette NZ, a burrito bust-up ends in anaphylaxis, Steve chows down on some one-ply, and the Buenos Aires hostel goes full Lord of the Flies. It’s become abundantly clear that that the show […]

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the cultured fourth week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. This week on The Bachelorette NZ, a burrito bust-up ends in anaphylaxis, Steve chows down on some one-ply, and the Buenos Aires hostel goes full Lord of the Flies. It's become… The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the cultured fourth week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. This week on The Bachelorette NZ, a burrito bust-up ends in anaphylaxis, Steve chows down on some one-ply, and the Buenos Aires hostel goes full Lord of the Flies. It's become abundantly clear that that the show is less about two women finding love, and more about a bunch of blokes slowly losing their mind over a talking bottle. Also, Duncan makes a formal apology to Richie, Jane reveals her drop-crotch truth, and there is a fierce debate about visible farts vs. poop burps. Oh, there's also a bit of a bombshell from Alex. It's The Real Pod and, today, it's real as hell.

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20 February 2020

The Real Pod: The awkies intruders hit The Bachelorette NZ

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the fourth week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s.Oi oi me homies, it’s intruder week on The Bachelorette NZ and we are about as shook as a humble kūmara being wrenched from Dargaville’s finest soil. Michael! Mac! Mike! Richie! Elliott (again)! The lad culture in the […]

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the fourth week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. Oi oi me homies, it's intruder week on The Bachelorette NZ and we are about as shook as a humble kūmara being wrenched from Dargaville's finest soil. Michael! Mac! Mike! Richie! Elliott… The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the fourth week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. Oi oi me homies, it's intruder week on The Bachelorette NZ and we are about as shook as a humble kūmara being wrenched from Dargaville's finest soil. Michael! Mac! Mike! Richie! Elliott (again)! The lad culture in the mansion is officially ruined, the cat has been set amongst the pigeons and all Aaron can do is sing his favourite Lonestar tune. Lesina took Elliott out for a danger cruise, Lily made gelato with Liam and the boys pranked each other till the stars turned cold. Will Steve ever forgive Aaron for interrupting him? Will Logan's kissing ever get better? And how long until Tavita's hernia explodes all over the Buenos Aires?? All that, and a quick round-up of MAFS AU and Love is Blind. It's The Real Pod!

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13 February 2020

The Real Pod: The Bachelorette gets naked, teary and herniated in Argentina

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the nude and rude third week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s.

Two wonderful women and a mixed bag of lads jetted off to Argentina this week, one which saw a serious culling of the meek set of …

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the nude and rude third week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. Two wonderful women and a mixed bag of lads jetted off to Argentina this week, one which saw a serious culling of the meek set of the herd. Conor,… The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the nude and rude third week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. Two wonderful women and a mixed bag of lads jetted off to Argentina this week, one which saw a serious culling of the meek set of the herd. Conor, Flynn and Mr Wedge all departed, nearly joined by Tavita, who was only saved after his hernia was given a double shaka down at the hospitable. The big change at the 'actually plausible winners' end of the competition was Aaron disintegrating before our wide eyes. First he snitched on Steve for his hobby of the odd sly dart, then he did a diary cam in maybe the worst possible location in their mansion/prison, then he fell apart in ways which we found either endearing or terrifying. Alex, Jane and Duncan recount every wild moment, with a little recap of the first few MAFS AU weddings for dessert. Delicious, like a block of fresh gouda. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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5 February 2020

The Real Pod: The Bachelorette NZ lads find love… with each other

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the second week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s.
The dramatic second week began with Lily walking in to the mansion and ended with The Mole revealing his true moley self to the bewildered men. W…

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the second week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. The dramatic second week began with Lily walking in to the mansion and ended with The Mole revealing his true moley self to the bewildered men. Will the twists ever stop? Maybe… The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the second week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. The dramatic second week began with Lily walking in to the mansion and ended with The Mole revealing his true moley self to the bewildered men. Will the twists ever stop? Maybe everyone is a mole! The only thing we're sure of is that Glenn has continued to be weird and Aaron has continued to showcase a range of hats. In the mansion, things are starting to get interesting and strong feelings are starting to form. Tavita has declared he would "go to war" with Marc, Liam has a gratitude circle for his birthday and Logan, Kurt and Jonathan compose an original song together. Oh yeah, and Lily and Lesina are there too. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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30 January 2020

The Real Pod: In which The Bachelorette NZ blows us all away

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the first week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s.
Blow your air horns and distress your jeans, the very first week of The Bachelorette NZ is over and we are absolutely amping. Join us as we recap …

The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the first week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. Blow your air horns and distress your jeans, the very first week of The Bachelorette NZ is over and we are absolutely amping. Join us as we recap the Tough Mudder group… The Real Pod reassembles to dissect the first week of The Bachelorette NZ with special thanks to Nando’s. Blow your air horns and distress your jeans, the very first week of The Bachelorette NZ is over and we are absolutely amping. Join us as we recap the Tough Mudder group date, the romantic single dates up trees and on seas, and all the ways this season is throwing convention to the wind. Two Bachelorettes? No date cards? Live-in host? We love to see it. It's not all roses though as the podcast is torn apart on several issues. Team Glenn or Team Marc? Is Tavita here for the right reasons? And who went crazy on the Roman blinds? It's The Real Pod, and it is real as hell. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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27 January 2020

The Real Pod: Art Green dissects episode one of The Bachelorette NZ

In this very special episode of The Real Pod, Art Green joins us to yarn about The Bachelorette NZ premiere. Brought to you by our friends at Nandos. 

It’s been five years in the making, but we finally got Art Green on our podcast. Join…

In this very special episode of The Real Pod, Art Green joins us to yarn about The Bachelorette NZ premiere. Brought to you by our friends at Nandos.  It's been five years in the making, but we finally got Art Green on our podcast. Joining us fresh out of episode… In this very special episode of The Real Pod, Art Green joins us to yarn about The Bachelorette NZ premiere. Brought to you by our friends at Nandos.  It's been five years in the making, but we finally got Art Green on our podcast. Joining us fresh out of episode one of The Bachelorette NZ, we recap every inch of the premiere from first arrivals to cocktail tensions. He tells us just how cold it was when Lesina met the lads, which guys were full-blown pick-up artists and flags some extreme nudity coming down the pipe. He also answers the big questions: Who is there for the right reasons? What is Elliott like in real life? And how's the extreme alpha dog energy? For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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23 January 2020

The Real Pod: New year, new decade, same old pod

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the summer in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s.

We’re ba-ack! After a long cruel summer full of Jay Jay and Minou heartbreak, The Bachelorette NZ reveals and a mild case of ring w…

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the summer in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. We're ba-ack! After a long cruel summer full of Jay Jay and Minou heartbreak, The Bachelorette NZ reveals and a mild case of ring worm, there is much to discuss. Why… The Real Pod assembles to dissect the summer in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. We're ba-ack! After a long cruel summer full of Jay Jay and Minou heartbreak, The Bachelorette NZ reveals and a mild case of ring worm, there is much to discuss. Why has Breakfast returned more sexed-up than ever? Will we ever see Minou again? And will Alex deliver on her shooey promises? Beyond that, there's also the much-anticipated finale of New Zealand's Next Top Model from 2009. We're not going to say it's an anti-climax, but we are going to say that the highlight is definitely Colin Mathura-Jeffree pelting young models with lamingtons for no reason. That's The Real Pod way. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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25 December 2019

The Real Pod: In which Trev is the icing on the cake

Spend your relaxing Boxing Day unboxing the Great Kiwi Bake Off finale with us. It was a Christmas-themed episode stacked with surprises, meringues and exploding tarts. But of course, most important of all is the fact that our ex-Navy ironman Trev came…

Spend your relaxing Boxing Day unboxing the Great Kiwi Bake Off finale with us. It was a Christmas-themed episode stacked with surprises, meringues and exploding tarts. But of course, most important of all is the fact that our ex-Navy ironman Trev came away with the trotie. There's also the penultimate… Spend your relaxing Boxing Day unboxing the Great Kiwi Bake Off finale with us. It was a Christmas-themed episode stacked with surprises, meringues and exploding tarts. But of course, most important of all is the fact that our ex-Navy ironman Trev came away with the trotie. There's also the penultimate episode of New Zealand's Next Top Model, where Wendyl Nissen drags the models to filth, a Nivea challenge brings out some performance blemishes and Michael Hill's boat makes a cameo appearance. It's The Real Pod, and we'll see you in 2020. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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19 December 2019

The Real Pod: In which Great Kiwi Bake Off goes teets up

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s.

It’s the second to last week on Great Kiwi Bake Off and utterances of “don’ like jelleh?” are ringing through…

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. It's the second to last week on Great Kiwi Bake Off and utterances of "don' like jelleh?" are ringing through the land. Booze jellies, udder jellies and ancient Egyptian jellies abound, our… The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. It's the second to last week on Great Kiwi Bake Off and utterances of "don' like jelleh?" are ringing through the land. Booze jellies, udder jellies and ancient Egyptian jellies abound, our final four bakers pulled out all the stops just as Sue Fleischl pulled out her finest pair of denim jeans. There's also a lot of Real News this week including a very lovely Corny Christmas experience, thousands of penis fish washing up at Jane's place and an exciting new trailer for The Bachelorette NZ. Also, Max Key made a dog look sad and Colin donated a cardboard cut-out of himself to our cause. It's The Real Pod, really. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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The Spinoff presents SUPERPOD 2019

Join various hosts of The Spinoff podcasts Gone by Lunchtime, On The Rag, The Real Pod, Paper Cuts, The Offspin, and Dietary Requirements as we look back at the car crash that was 2019.

In this special end of year podcast hosted by …

Join various hosts of The Spinoff podcasts Gone by Lunchtime, On The Rag, The Real Pod, Paper Cuts, The Offspin, and Dietary Requirements as we look back at the car crash that was 2019. In this special end of year podcast hosted by Leonie Hayden, we dissect the country's response to national… Join various hosts of The Spinoff podcasts Gone by Lunchtime, On The Rag, The Real Pod, Paper Cuts, The Offspin, and Dietary Requirements as we look back at the car crash that was 2019. In this special end of year podcast hosted by Leonie Hayden, we dissect the country's response to national disasters, the highs and lows of MAFS, international literary scandals, the madness and tragedy of the 2019 Cricket World Cup, Mad Chapman's Pulitzer Prize-winning chip ranking and more, plus we add our entries to the official The Spinoff 2019 Honours and Dishonours board. Pour yourself a Baileys and settle in. Check out more of our podcasts here including the pop up pod The Spinoff Book Out Loud (The Spinoff Book is available in stores now). If you want to continue to support the work we do, behind the mic or on the site, check out The Spinoff Members, where you can support independent media for as a little as a dollar a week! For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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13 December 2019

The Real Pod: In which Colin Mathura-Jeffree tells us the story of the decade

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s.

Sometimes you are just doing a podcast as usual and then Colin Mathura-Jeffree gives you a call and throws your world off its axi…

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. Sometimes you are just doing a podcast as usual and then Colin Mathura-Jeffree gives you a call and throws your world off its axis. In a very special edition of Colin's Cranny:… The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. Sometimes you are just doing a podcast as usual and then Colin Mathura-Jeffree gives you a call and throws your world off its axis. In a very special edition of Colin's Cranny: Live, the man himself gives us a harrowing update on his rotten dumplings situation, one that put Mike Puru's McChicken story to shame. There's also the latest from Great Kiwi Bake Off, where Heather falls apart for the first time and Trev reveals more from his bottomless depths. There is a lot of ball chat, stunning showstoppers and Stage Dads. We also recap episode nine of New Zealand's Next Top Model C1, featuring a Covergirl challenge and Nigel Barker from the real American telly. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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5 December 2019

The Real Pod: In which the bread is dead and the top sheets divide us

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s.

Are top sheets good or bad? Who is leaving giant dog poo piles everywhere? And why did Max Key delete his last Instagram post? Ou…

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. Are top sheets good or bad? Who is leaving giant dog poo piles everywhere? And why did Max Key delete his last Instagram post? Our investigative journalism continues as we try and… The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. Are top sheets good or bad? Who is leaving giant dog poo piles everywhere? And why did Max Key delete his last Instagram post? Our investigative journalism continues as we try and get to the bottom of Trev from Bake Off's back story. He refers to himself in the third person, he definitely fought in 'Nam and he just can't stop making different breads. There's also some TradeMe chat, a brief Carly Rae Jepsen review and a live unwrapping of a gorgeous Christmas Corny gift. And don't forget episode eight of New Zealand's Next Top Model, where the photoshoots are brought to you by Smokefree and the couture is brought to you by Save Mart. It's the Real Pod, and we are for real. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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28 November 2019

The Real Pod: In which we pray to the towering Bake Off pastry nun

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s.
Join us in the church of reality television for our latest sermon, including some great goss about Zac and Erin’s wedding rings, Al…

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. Join us in the church of reality television for our latest sermon, including some great goss about Zac and Erin’s wedding rings, Alex and Duncan getting owned at the TV awards and… The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. Join us in the church of reality television for our latest sermon, including some great goss about Zac and Erin’s wedding rings, Alex and Duncan getting owned at the TV awards and Naz getting called out on Facebook. Why are people sunning their bums? What has Matty McLean gone and done now? And how much Nando’s is too much Nando’s? There’s also the latest episode of Great Kiwi Bake Off, where the tarts were soggy and the nuns were towering. Naomi charmed us all, Trev revealed his history with Block Doris plums and Ethan made a chocolate pizza. Plus, there’s a conspiracy theory about Max Key that will make your brain melt. It’s the Real Pod!!! For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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21 November 2019

The Real Pod: Terrifying cakes and the worst episode of NZNTM yet

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s.

We are still buzzing after the rip-roaring success of the Corny Christmas party this week and we won’t even let a rogue earw…

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. We are still buzzing after the rip-roaring success of the Corny Christmas party this week and we won't even let a rogue earwig in the studio dampen our spirits. There's a lot… The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. We are still buzzing after the rip-roaring success of the Corny Christmas party this week and we won't even let a rogue earwig in the studio dampen our spirits. There's a lot of exciting Real News including the secret location of The Bachelorette NZ, the celebrity break-up of the decade and Jacinda Arden's cameo on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert. There's also a great holiday-themed week on Great Kiwi Bake Off, where the contestants made ANZAC biscuits, glossy buns and spooky Halloween cakes. Trev took it to the max, Ana made a disgusting brain cake and Dean was in a grumpy mood. Also, New Zealand's Next Top Model had its worst episode yet and we're not even talking about the toilet paper challenge. It's the Real Pod! For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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15 November 2019

The Real Pod EXTRA: An interview with the winners of My Restaurant Rules NZ

In the days after Rustic Kitchen’s historic win on My Restaurant Rules NZ, Duncan and Alex got on the blower with Tyson and Denise. Then we forgot about the interview completely. Join us now as we talk roadkill paté, Daniel’s lemon-b…

In the days after Rustic Kitchen's historic win on My Restaurant Rules NZ, Duncan and Alex got on the blower with Tyson and Denise. Then we forgot about the interview completely. Join us now as we talk roadkill paté, Daniel's lemon-based meltdown and how Tyson can make the gods cry. Thank… In the days after Rustic Kitchen's historic win on My Restaurant Rules NZ, Duncan and Alex got on the blower with Tyson and Denise. Then we forgot about the interview completely. Join us now as we talk roadkill paté, Daniel's lemon-based meltdown and how Tyson can make the gods cry. Thank you to Nando's.  For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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14 November 2019

The Real Pod: But first, let me take a selfie (biscuit)

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s.
This week on the Great Kiwi Bake Off is all about weird biscuits. Savoury biscuits. Mushroomy biscuits. Biscuits about cross fit. W…

The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. This week on the Great Kiwi Bake Off is all about weird biscuits. Savoury biscuits. Mushroomy biscuits. Biscuits about cross fit. Who had the best biscuit art of them all? Why is… The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s. This week on the Great Kiwi Bake Off is all about weird biscuits. Savoury biscuits. Mushroomy biscuits. Biscuits about cross fit. Who had the best biscuit art of them all? Why is Trev so good? And how cool is Louise's secret ramen shop? All this, and the key to the perfect macaron (it's all in the feet). Beyond that, we've got a lot of Real News to get through. The Spinoff Book launch was a huge hit and basically became an all-night Colin's Cranny, Duncan ate a lot of wasabi in front of Jack Tame at the TVNZ launch and Art Green is posting many mysterious instagrams from very mysterious locations. It's The Real Pod: for real. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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