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When the Facts Change

Hosted by journalist Bernard Hickey, When the Facts Change is your essential weekly guide to the intersection of economics, business and politics in Aotearoa New Zealand. Presented by The Spinoff together with Kiwibank.

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A handy Primer for the global AI economy

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Sean Gourley, founder and CEO of US-based AI company Primer, joins Bernard Hickey to discuss the role Aotearoa can play in the development of AI, defence technology and the geopolitical contest between China and the United States.

Shock and Orr

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In an emergency edition of When The Facts Change, Bernard Hickey talks with NZ Initiative executive director Oliver Hartwich and Kiwibank chief economist Jarrod Kerr about Adrian Orr’s surprise resignation.

Rising tides and sinking boats

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Journalist and researcher Max Rashbrooke joins Bernard Hickey to discuss recent inequality trends in Aotearoa, and how we could use Kiwisaver to jumpstart the wealth of every New Zealander.