When the Facts Change

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When the Facts Change

Hosted by journalist Bernard Hickey, When the Facts Change is your essential weekly guide to the intersection of economics, business and politics in Aotearoa New Zealand. Presented by The Spinoff together with Kiwibank.

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An AI-powered startup

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Contented co-founders Lucy Pink and Hannah Hardy-Jones join Bernard Hickey to talk about their AI start-up and how they started working with US news publishers.

A handy Primer for the global AI economy

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Sean Gourley, founder and CEO of US-based AI company Primer, joins Bernard Hickey to discuss the role Aotearoa can play in the development of AI, defence technology and the geopolitical contest between China and the United States.

Shock and Orr

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In an emergency edition of When The Facts Change, Bernard Hickey talks with NZ Initiative executive director Oliver Hartwich and Kiwibank chief economist Jarrod Kerr about Adrian Orr’s surprise resignation.