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Simon Day, Al Brown and Sophie Gilmour tuck in to Carolina ribs (non-meat-eater Alice Neville opted for a Sicilian stuffed pepper skewer) following recording of the great lost podcast (Photo: Tina Tiller)
Simon Day, Al Brown and Sophie Gilmour tuck in to Carolina ribs (non-meat-eater Alice Neville opted for a Sicilian stuffed pepper skewer) following recording of the great lost podcast (Photo: Tina Tiller)

KaiFebruary 8, 2019

The lost tapes of our Al Brown barbecue (plus ribs and pork rump steak recipes)

Simon Day, Al Brown and Sophie Gilmour tuck in to Carolina ribs (non-meat-eater Alice Neville opted for a Sicilian stuffed pepper skewer) following recording of the great lost podcast (Photo: Tina Tiller)
Simon Day, Al Brown and Sophie Gilmour tuck in to Carolina ribs (non-meat-eater Alice Neville opted for a Sicilian stuffed pepper skewer) following recording of the great lost podcast (Photo: Tina Tiller)

In which Al Brown praised Simon Day’s grillin’ skills and we got it on tape… and then disaster struck. But don’t worry, the recipes survive. 

If legendary chef Al Brown demands you cook his own recipes for him, you spend all night in the kitchen. And when he tells you how delicious everything is and the moment is recorded on a podcast, but no one gets to hear it due to technology erasing its existence – did it ever happen?  

Al Brown was the guest on the summer barbecue edition of The Spinoff’s food podcast Dietary Requirements, and we hoped he was going to cook for the staff. But apparently Al finds it hard to talk shit and cook at the same time, so instead he sent me his favourite barbecue recipes and suggested I cook, and he would critique. When I received the recipes for Al’s Carolina-style ribs and jalapeño cornbread from his book Stoked, I was inspired and intimidated. I added my own pork rump steak recipe to show off a little.

Cooking for one of my culinary heroes was a simultaneous dream and nightmare. And when you’re still in the kitchen at 1am the night before your big day, you’re inevitably going to make mistakes. I made two key ones. I hoped Al wouldn’t notice. He did.

Proof it happened (Photo: Tina Tiller)

I marinated the ribs in the spicy southern rub the night before I slow-roasted them, before finally barbecuing them for Al (and The Spinoff staff, who initially had been told Al Brown would be cooking for them). This was where I made my first mistake, which in my opinion turned out to be a happy accident. I read two teaspoons of cayenne pepper as two tablespoons. And then I chose to up the chilli quantity a little because I like spicy ribs, and I added three tablespoons of cayenne to the spice rub – more than five times Al’s recommended amount.

*“Whooooooo!” said Al Brown, as he ran his finger through the marinade. “That’s pretty hot. How much cayenne did you put in there?”

But once they’d been on the grill and the cayenne had mellowed, they had real heat that hit you upside the head. If you ask me, it was exciting, not unbearable.

“You’ve made the recipe your own,” Al said. “It’s your recipe now.”

Rib selfie (Photo: Sophie Gilmour)

For years I’d been left disappointed every time I’d eaten ribs. They seemed perpetually dry and lacking in meat. The meat that did exist you had to work hard to get off the bone. There are two key solutions to this problem. First, use a good pig. The Freedom Farms baby back ribs are long and thick with meat. Second, slow-cook them a day or two in advance of the barbecue – but not for too long. You want them moist and tender, but still holding onto the bone so you can have that experience of tearing the meat from the rib with your teeth. Al’s tip is that after an hour and 20 minutes of the ribs braising in the oven, check them every 20 minutes or so, until you can feel the meat is soft and moist but still holding the bone. “You don’t want it to shake off.”

(An additional tip from Drew at Freedom Farms: scrape off the sinew from the back of the ribs to allow the marinade to penetrate even further.)

On to pork steaks. It’s essential you cook your pork steak medium rare. Too many people are afraid of pink pork, but there’s absolutely no danger in serving barbecue pork rump steaks charred on the outside, and juicy, tender and rare in the centre. Let the grill get super hot before you drop the steaks on the barbecue to let the fat render and the meat colour. But get them off sooner than you think. Let them rest and don’t let anyone send them back for more cooking.

Us again (Photo: Tina Tiller)

It’s exciting to see barbecue culture in New Zealand evolving. The concept of outdoor cooking over fire has always suited our Kiwi psyche. “It fits our nation’s personality. No matter what the style, it evokes the same sentiment: informality, casualness and unpretentiousness,” Al said.

But for decades, that meant sausages on hot plates over gas. While that’s an essential piece of the Kiwi cooking canon, barbecuing over coal is becoming more and more common. Even our vegetarian managing editor of The Spinoff has the highly popular Big Green Egg Kamado barbecue and a bag of coal. The flavour it adds is significant – it takes the food to a primal place.  

Al hates the idea of a secret recipe. “Food is made to be shared,” is his ethos. So he’s been kind enough to share the recipes for his ribs, cornbread and salsa. They’re fucking delicious, I know because Al told me so (even if he did notice straight away that I forgot to add the salt to my cornbread. Mistake number 2).

“This is so, so, so good,” Al Brown said with a mouthful of rib he’d just torn effortlessly from the bone. I couldn’t hide my grin. Al Brown loved my food. You’re going to have to believe me.

Al Brown’s Carolina-style ribs, as cooked by Simon Day (Photo: Simon Day)

AL BROWN’S CAROLINA-STYLE RIBS WITH JALAPEÑO CORNBREAD AND TOMATILLO AVOCADO SALSA

Serves 6

These ribs are super moist, and the jalapeño cornbread is a recipe Al has been using for over 20 years. It’s not dry like a lot of cornbreads, as it has good amounts of cheese and buttermilk in it.

Tomatillos are around from mid-summer onwards. They are a relation of the tomato, as the name would suggest, and also the cape gooseberry, hence the lantern-style husk that this green fruit grows in. They can be hard to find but are worth seeking out: keep an eye out at farmers markets. You treat them like a tomato and they can be used cooked or raw. I really enjoy their savoury and slightly sour flavour. If you can’t find them, use tomatoes instead.

STEP 1. Carolina rib rub

  • 2 tablespoons smoked paprika
  • 2 tablespoons regular paprika
  • 2 tablespoons salt
  • 2 teaspoons freshly ground black pepper
  • 2 teaspoons cayenne pepper (or 3 tablespoons, if you like it spicy…)
  • 3 slabs of pork ribs, cut in half (about 500g per portion)

Mix the spices together in a small bowl to make the rub. Sprinkle a liberal amount over the ribs, massage in and marinate for at least a day. Refrigerate until required.

STEP 2. First cook of Carolina ribs

  • 2 cups medium-diced onion
  • 2 cups medium-diced carrot
  • 2 cups medium-diced celery
  • 8 cloves fresh garlic, roughly chopped
  • ½ cup American “ballpark” mustard
  • ½ cup cider vinegar
  • 4 tablespoons brown sugar
  • 2 tablespoons smoked paprika
  • 2 tablespoons tomato paste
  • 2 cups water
  • 2 teaspoons Tabasco

Preheat the oven to 150℃.

Put the marinated ribs in a suitable-sized roasting or braising dish. Pour all the rest of the ingredients in a suitable-sized saucepan, set over medium heat and stir until the sugar is dissolved, then pour over the ribs. Cover with tin foil and place the pan on the high heat for 5 minutes before carefully placing in the oven.

Check the ribs after 1 hour 20 minutes, then at 20 minute intervals after that. Remove when the pork is soft but not falling off the bones. Remove the ribs and cool then refrigerate until required for the barbecue.  

Allow the braising liquid to cool a little before pureeing until smooth. Pour back into a saucepan then place on medium-low heat and reduce until thick. Cool then refrigerate until required. This becomes your barbecue sauce to brush on as you grill the ribs.

Cornbread: delicious, even without the salt (Photo: Simon Day)

STEP 3. Jalapeño cornbread

  • ⅓ cup olive oil
  • 1½ cups finely chopped onion
  • ¼ cup tinned jalapeño peppers, finely chopped
  • 4 cups corn kernels, roughly chopped
  • 3 cups fine-grain cornmeal
  • 250ml buttermilk
  • 2½ cups grated cheddar cheese
  • 2 teaspoons salt
  • 9 eggs, separated

Preheat your oven to 160ºC.

Line a large skillet with baking paper or greased tin foil, or use two loaf tins.

Place a sauté pan on medium-low heat. Add the olive oil, chopped onion and jalapeño. Sweat for 15 minutes until the onion is transparent and soft. Place in a large mixing bowl along with the corn, cornmeal, buttermilk, grated cheddar and salt. Set aside.

Put the egg yolks in a bowl and whisk until creamy. Put the whites into another clean bowl then whisk to soft peaks. Now fold the egg yolks into the whites to create a light, airy egg mix.

Fold this into the corn and onion mix until fully combined then pour into the lined skillet or two loaf tins.

Place in the oven and bake for 45 minutes until the cornbread is golden and firm to touch. Take a toothpick or similar to check if the centre is cooked.

Remove from the oven and let the cornbread cool a little before turning out.

Cornbread on the grill (Photo: Simon Day)

STEP 4. Tomatillo and avocado salsa

  • 2 roasted red capsicums (skins, seeds removed), cut into medium dice
  • 2 cups medium-diced tomatillos (or use tomatoes)
  • 1 avocado, cut into medium dice
  • ⅓ cup finely diced red onion
  • 1 clove fresh garlic, finely diced
  • ⅓ cup fresh coriander, roughly chopped
  • ½ tablespoon freshly ground cumin seeds
  • 1 teaspoon sweet smoked Spanish paprika (dulce)
  • juice of 1 lime
  • ⅓ cup olive oil
  • 12 drops chipotle Tabasco (or use regular Tabasco)
  • ½ tablespoon sugar

Put all the ingredients in a bowl except the salt and pepper. Mix to combine then season accordingly. Refrigerate until required.

STEP 5. The barbecue

Get your char grill (or your gas barbecue if it’s your only option) to a high heat.

Lightly oil the ribs then place on the heat. Brush with the marinade as you heat through. Remove the ribs once they are golden and nicely charred.  

For the cornbread, cut in thick slices and brush with a little oil before cooking on the grill for a couple of  minutes to get golden and slightly crunchy.

Serve the ribs on a platter with cornbread and tomatillo salsa on the side.

Rump steaks are beautiful for the barbecue (Photo: Supplied)

SIMON’S MEDITERRANEAN BARBECUE PORK RUMP STEAKS

Serves 6

Rump is beautiful for the barbecue. It’s got lots of beautiful fat that caramelises as it burns over the coals, and injects so much flavour into the meat. Don’t be afraid of serving it medium rare.

This marinade has delicious aniseed notes from the fennel and influences from all around the Mediterranean. If you’ve got time toast cumin seeds, fennel seeds and coriander seeds then grind them in a mortar and pestle. If you don’t, the pre-ground packet stuff is pretty damn good.

  • 2 tablespoons smoked paprika
  • 2 tablespoons ground cumin seeds
  • 2 tablespoons ground fennel seeds
  • 2 tablespoons ground coriander seeds
  • 2 tablespoons salt
  • 2 teaspoons freshly ground black pepper
  • good olive oil
  • 6 Freedom Farms pork rump steaks

At least a day in advance, mix the spices, salt and pepper with enough olive oil to give you a paste consistency. Rub the paste over the steaks and keep them in the fridge.

Use coal if possible, and then get the barbecue as hot as you can. Sear the steaks until they start to blacken and the fat starts to caramelise – max three minutes each side.

Rest and slice into strips to reveal the glistening medium-rare pork meat.

This content was created in paid partnership with Freedom Farms. Learn more about our partnerships here

spinoff reviews primo flavoured milk
spinoff reviews primo flavoured milk

KaiFebruary 7, 2019

Would you drink Jelly Tip and Goody Goody Gum Drops flavoured milk?

spinoff reviews primo flavoured milk
spinoff reviews primo flavoured milk

We review the entire country and culture of New Zealand, one thing at a time. Today, the new Primo x Tip Top collaborative flavoured milks. 

Before Lewis Road Creamery came along and changed the flavoured milk landscape in New Zealand forever, there was Primo. Primo was humble – it was the everyman’s milk. It came in sensible, traditional flavours. It did what it said on the tin.

But consumers no longer want humble; they want Belgian chocolate and coconut, they want gingerbread, they want caramel and white chocolate, they want Colombian espresso. So you can’t blame Primo for trying to innovate to keep up with the competition.

Which brings us to the subject of today’s review: Primo x Tip Top Jelly Tip Flavoured Milk and Primo x Tip Top Goody Goody Gum Drops Flavoured Milk. Primo has collaborated with its Fonterra stablemate Tip Top before, releasing mint choc chip and hokey pokey-flavoured milks in 2017.

But this time it has gone too far. It would appear no one from Primo read Hayden Donnell’s impassioned call to ban all Kiwiana fusion foods, because this is exactly what he was talking about.

Anyway. The Spinoff Board of Review started with the Goody Goody Gum Drops. It’s certainly a Kiwi classic, but GGGD can be polarising. How would the milk version fare?

What first struck our panel was the colour. “It kind of looks like pond scum,” noted Toby Morris, but we had to concede this disconcerting hue was true to the ice cream. While Alex Casey likened the aroma to Spray ’n’ Wipe, other tasters believed it did invoke the mysterious “bubblegum” flavour of the frozen original.

“Shit yeah, it tastes like the ice cream!” exclaimed Tina Tiller on taking her first sip. Other board members were less forthcoming.

“I feel like Goody Goody Gum Drops is so married to the texture of the gum drops that when it becomes liquid, it’s just very, very sad,” concluded Casey.

Duncan Greive, who swished the milk around in his mouth like some sort of posho at a wine tasting, was even harsher. “Yeah, that’s disgusting. I’ve always hated the flavour of Goody Goody Gum Drops, but it was leavened by the gum drops. You get none of the cooling consistency and texture of the ice cream, none of the genre-bending of the gum drops, only the foul, bubblegum-meets-Toilet-Duck of the ice cream. No stars.”

Mark Kelliher, who admitted to enjoying the core flavour of the Goody Goody Gum Drops ice cream more than the drops that punctuate it, found the milk lacking. “To make up for the missing texture they should have intensified the flavour profile.”

We also tried a blend of the two flavours, which didn’t improve the taste, but did look cool

Jose Barbosa agreed. “They chickened out,” he said bluntly. “It’s not strong enough. The flavour of that green ice cream is very distinct, but here they pulled back for some reason. They should have had the courage of their convictions and gone for it. Primo, have some balls.”

We moved on to the Jelly Tip, a more universally appreciated ice cream than ol’ mate GGGD, which gave us some hope that the milk might provide us with a more positive experience.

But it wasn’t to be. Toby Morris detected an “almost children’s cough syrup” note, while others felt the milk failed to live up to the triple-component bliss that is the Jelly Tip on a stick. The raspberry jelly flavour was present, but the vanilla ice cream and chocolate were nowhere to be seen.

“Bleurgh,” said Jihee Junn. “You know, this is disgusting,” she added in an accent inspired by this iconic YouTube video.

Barbosa reiterated his earlier thoughts. “It’s a gaudy novelty drink, you might as well lean into it. This is not worth my time.”

Casey was more complimentary. “It’s all right, it’s not bad. If you melted down a Jelly Tip… this would not be far off.” She felt it had a watered-down aspect, however, and paled in comparison to Whittaker’s Jelly Tip chocolate, which she believes to be “a true rendering of the Jelly Tip essence”.

Greive agreed. “I mean, that’s basically like a watered-down raspberry. It’s nowhere near as bad as the abomination that was Goody Goody Gum Drops, but these should not have been made. These crossovers… someone needs to do ask, does this have a reason to exist? Is this an improvement or at least an interesting footnote to the original?

“This is appalling,” he concluded. “And I will now finish it because I like sugar.”

Good or bad? Bad.

Verdict: It should be illegal for these to exist.