The latest episode of our bi-weekly pop music chat for umusic, shot and edited by The Spinoff’s own José Barbosa. It involves two pop rookies – The Spinoff’s Alex Casey and bFM’s Joseph Harper – listening to state-of-the-art pop music and having a chat about it. Simple.

This week the two talk are joined by rapper and Pokemon trainer Vince Staples to talk about Adam Sandler, the shape of the Earth, and where chickens come from. Oh, and the latest singles from SACHI, Pusha T and Tame Impala.