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Pop CultureMay 3, 2017

A star is born: The horror of being thrust into the spotlight at a NZ talk show taping

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Season two of All Talk With Anika Moa premieres tonight on Māori Television. Madeleine Chapman attended the taping and was transformed into a star.

The studio audience wasn’t big. In fact, it took me just a few seconds to count 19 bodies total, including me. I knew the audience for All Talk With Anika Moa would be small but the reality of it chilled me to the core. Because 19 audience members meant one thing to me and one thing only. I was going to be on TV. I really didn’t want to be on TV.

I’d seen enough American talk shows to incorrectly assume that it would be possible to hide within a studio audience. When I looked behind me and saw a group of young dancers, probably no older than 12, I knew at once that I’d be appearing in a starring role on this episode. How could I predict the future? Because I’ve seen the show before and the funniest (read: most inappropriate) parts don’t exactly call for a cutaway to an innocent cherub looking confused in the audience.

Once we’d all filed in, the stage manager rearranged us so that there were no gaps in the audience shots. Then he had us clap, and clap, and clap.

“Alright, now we’re going to get some laughing shots.”

Now wait one goddamn minute. Nobody had mentioned any acting. I can barely fake laugh to someone I’ve just met, let alone do it convincingly on camera. My palms started sweating, my knees went weak, my arms grew heavy and so on…spaghetti.

So we laughed and laughed and laughed while inside I cried and cried and cried. The cameras, they’re so close. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

Hello darkness my old friend

By the time Anika herself walked onto set, I was exhausted. My cheeks hurt from the pain of forced laughter and I wondered if I’d ever smile again. But I did, because Anika’s hilarious. Right away, she spotted the young girls sitting behind me and looked surprised. “Oh we have young people. I’ll try not to swear,” she said, addressing us directly. “But let’s be honest, you’re shit out of luck.”

And that was that. What followed was two hours of genuine laughter at puns, swearing, and increasingly sexual humour. Top of the guest list was Rose Matafeo, introduced with a rare correct pronunciation of her last name. When she was then made to introduce herself, she instinctively pronounced it ‘wrong’ (how most people say it). It reminded me of the fact that until very recently I pronounced my own mum’s name wrong because I grew up in a predominantly white neighbourhood and only ever heard her introducing herself to white people. Something tells me “Rose Ma-ta-feh-or” might only ever exist on Māori television. Note: ‘feh’ rhymes with ‘meh’.

Almost like I was there

Each interview segment began slowly (much like any conversation), got really good in the middle, then fizzled out at the end (much like any conversation). With introductions being essential to a talk show, I soon realised that often the funniest moments in a taping don’t make it to air. I certainly didn’t envy whoever’s job it would be to edit the two+ hours of footage into a svelte 40 minute show.


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At one point, Moa played a game with Matafeo and Cohen Holloway (very good at impressions and also the second guest) that involved impersonating a celebrity orgasming. It was a good, though long, bit that would most certainly be cut down and play better on TV.

If they had recorded our reactions live, you’d be forgiven for thinking you’d sat on the remote and changed the channel to Spongebob Squarepants because for that segment I transformed into Mr Krabs. As each joke got more raunchy, I could hear the girls behind me go from quiet giggling to complete silence, either from confusion or embarrassment, and I was, well, shook. I wondered which adult was supervising them and what the conversation would be on the car ride home.

An authentic audience reaction shot

The show wrapped up with a truly impressive live performance from Stan Walker that required just the one take and was definitely worth witnessing in person. As I exited the studio and accidentally looked directly into the sun, I tried to imagine how the edited episode would play out. In all my imaginings, I once again forgot to entertain the possibility of myself appearing on screen.

Later that day I watched Anika Moa’s Instagram story which included shots of filming, and then shots of the editing room. There I was, in a wide shot on one screen, and in a scary close up on another. I looked like I was genuinely laughing. It didn’t look so bad. In fact I could almost live with it. Then the camera stayed zoomed in on my face as I turned my head.

In that moment, alone in her room, a young woman caught the side profile of her face for perhaps the first time in her life, and quietly wept.


Want to experience similar fame on a Friday afternoon? Email nikau@rogueproductions.co.nz for info on future tapings.

All Talk With Anika Moa returns to Māori TV on Wednesday at 9.30pm.

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MAALA PLAYING SEAMLESS, A SERIES OF ALL AGES SHOWS AT THE TUNING FORK, AUCKLAND (PHOTO: POPPY TOHILL)
MAALA PLAYING SEAMLESS, A SERIES OF ALL AGES SHOWS AT THE TUNING FORK, AUCKLAND (PHOTO: POPPY TOHILL)

Pop CultureMay 2, 2017

A plea for more all ages shows: ‘Why is such a beautiful and valuable experience so rare for those under 18?’

MAALA PLAYING SEAMLESS, A SERIES OF ALL AGES SHOWS AT THE TUNING FORK, AUCKLAND (PHOTO: POPPY TOHILL)
MAALA PLAYING SEAMLESS, A SERIES OF ALL AGES SHOWS AT THE TUNING FORK, AUCKLAND (PHOTO: POPPY TOHILL)

If you’re under 18 and a music fan then your choice for attending gigs legally is remarkably scant. Seventeen year old Grace Stratton makes an appeal for promoters not to forget the younger crowd.

One of the first gigs I went to was on my 14th birthday. Thinking back to that gig invokes some of my happiest memories. I spent the night headbanging like I was an honorary member of Slipknot and as much as I probably made a fool out of myself I find it endearing that during that space and time I didn’t care. Now, every time ‘Seven Nation Army’ plays, I think of 14-year-old Grace and her ‘expressionist’ dance moves.

That’s what music does. It either works to remove you from the ‘now’ and transport you to a better place, or it enhances the moment you’re currently in. Recorded music does this – there is no better release from a difficult day than listening to Mothers Milk or Drink Bleach – but live music is the ultimate. While recorded music allows you to experience your desired artist at any time, it is unable to fully move you out of the moment, because usually as you listen to recorded music you’re doing other things: driving, studying, making dinner, cleaning.

Recorded music is an accompaniment to everyday life, but live music is an entire experience. It’s not just about the artists on stage and their music, it’s also about the friends you go with, the sights, the guy you’re sitting behind who smells really good when you lean in to ask him how he is and what he thinks of the music. Live music is an all-encompassing experience, it detaches you from the realities of life – and as I have got older I have realised how valuable and beautiful an experience like that is.

MAALA PLAYING SEAMLESS, A SERIES OF ALL AGES SHOWS AT THE TUNING FORK, AUCKLAND (PHOTO: POPPY TOHILL)

So why is such a beautiful and valuable experience so rare for those under 18? Is it a question of legality? I am a year off the ever-lusted age of 18, which brings with it the prospect of being allowed independently into the Kings Arms and other established music venues. 

Venues like the Kings Arms do allow under 18s into shows, if they are accompanied by their legal guardian. Under 18s have to be accompanied for many reasons, but the consumption of alcohol is the biggest one. Of all the hoops all-age gigs have to jump through, the biggest ‘hoop’ is the potential presence of alcohol among minors.

Hip hop artist Haz Hauvi, who is both a friend and a member of Homebrew and Team Dynamite, told me: “I feel it could be just the organisers, promoters, and event managers that don’t wanna really deal with the underage crowd as much, because it’s too hard to manage [some] kids, especially the ones that are already drinking outside the shows.

“I feel sorry for the underage ones who can’t get into our shows or most shows in general. You see a whole different side of music when you go to a live show”.

Artists and promoters do recognise the need to have a vibrant and present all-age scene in New Zealand, but the response is lacking. Young musicians and organisations like Zeal have had to pick up the slack for those under 18, providing them with shows to see and opportunities to be showcased, but even these efforts do not meet the demand that is there. I believe the absence of an all-ages gig scene is out of fear about ‘what could happen’ where alcohol and/or drugs are concerned. But my response to that is this: how do you expect New Zealand’s drinking culture to change if you don’t set up more safe spaces for youth to have experiences like listening to live music?

Instead of being afraid of drinking culture, we should make efforts to change the way young people see alcohol. The way for that to happen is to provide alternatives to sitting around drinking – like going to see live music – which is why we need to amp up the all-ages gig scene.

Fourteen year old me is almost eighteen, but she’ll remember that gig with her expressionist dance moves forever. We need to give other young people the opportunity to develop similar memories. Our drinking culture has coloured how we go about creating spaces for young people and that is just not good enough anymore.


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