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Pop CultureDecember 8, 2016

The unauthorised history of What Now gunge

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An in-depth Spinoff investigation reveals exactly who invented What Now gunge and unravels the mystery of the secret recipe. Calum Henderson reports.

A traditional gunging. (Photo: YouTube – 'What Now's Best Gunge!')
A traditional What Now gunging. (Photo: YouTube – ‘What Now’s Best Gunge!’)

“I was gunged while wearing a huge chicken suit in 1999.”

“I was gunged in the presence of Lana Coc-Kroft.”

“I was gunged on completion of the High Flyers course during a Shrek 2 themed episode.”

“My sister and I were on ‘Fill Ya Pants’.”

These are the testimonies of ordinary New Zealanders who have had the extraordinary experience of being gunged on the children’s television show What Now.

Over the last two-and-a-half decades countless Kiwis have had similar encounters with gunge. But how many of them knew exactly what was in the substance being tipped over their heads or pumped into their plastic pants?

It is a simple question that nobody seems to have the answer to: what is gunge?

A simple question with an unexpectedly complicated answer.

Chapter 1: What is gunge?

The brightly-coloured substance we know as gunge appears to have British television origins dating back as far as the 1960s. Modern gunge (known as ‘slime’ in North America) emerged on both sides of the Atlantic around the start of the 1980s.

The exact date of New Zealand’s maiden gunging on What Now remains unknown. While there are some earlier ‘proto-gunge’ precedents, the true invention of gunge seems to have taken place sometime around – and no earlier than – 1993.

I asked Simon Barnett, who hosted What Now with Catherine McPherson from 1988 to 1992, if he was there to witness the invention of gunge. “I am really sorry to say they introduced gunge AFTER I had finished my tenure,” he replied. “It is to my regret that I never had the sensation [of being gunged].”

Like many New Zealanders, Simon Barnett can only imagine what it feels like to be gunged. The people best placed to describe the sensation are those who have at some point in their lives taken part in one of What Now’s many gunge-based games – ‘Fill Ya Pants’, ‘Target Ya Teacher’, ‘Gunge Ya Granny’… The list goes on.

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‘Target Ya Teacher’. (Photo: YouTube – ‘What Now’s Best Gunge!’)

I wanted to talk to some of these people, so I tweeted a request for testimonies from anyone willing to share their gunge experiences.

Chapter 2: Being gunged

“I remember it being cold and slimy, like you’d expect,” wrote Harriet, who experienced a “classic over the head gunging” in 1999 upon completion of a balloon-popping game. “It kind of smelled like dishwashing liquid; the texture was kind of like semi-set instant pudding.”

“The gunge was lime green, cold, heavy, and viscous,” remembered Cameron, who was gunged in 1995 as part of a skit involving then-Wheel of Fortune host Lana Coc-Kroft. “It had the consistency and smell of cheap shampoo mixed with porridge. Actually, it was freezing.”

“I mostly remember how cold it was, nothing about the colour or smell,” said Marian, who competed against her twin sister Eileen in the popular gunge-based game ‘Fill Ya Pants’ in 2001. “The gunging itself wasn’t too bad because it was only in the pants.”[It] overflowed down our legs into the container we stood in. Most of the sliminess was just under my feet.”

“It washed out easily from my clothes and hair but I think my shoes smelled strange no matter how many times I washed them,” claimed Ashok, who took part in a game called ‘Gunge On The Run’ in 2006. “[They were] the only pair I had at the time and they were pretty much ruined.”

Here is footage of Ashok having his shoes ruined by gunge. He identified himself as: “the one in the yellow who shouts to the other team that they suck.”

“I sneakily touched some on the floor,” admitted Joseph, who attended multiple What Now tapings with his brother Tom in the 1990s but was never gunged. He remembers it being “Cold. Thick. Honestly, a little bit like green semen.”

My gunge correspondents all provided vivid, detailed testimonies, but none of them brought me any closer to answering my question: What is it? What are the ingredients of gunge?

“Every kid at my school had a theory,” remembered Harriet. “But yeah… I never found out what was actually in it.”

“I would like to know what the gunge was made of,” said Marian.

Chapter 3: The search begins

To find out what gunge was made of, I approached Whitebait Media, the Christchurch-based production company which has made What Now since 2004. I submitted a list of questions via the show’s TVNZ publicist.

The main question was: “Are you willing to reveal the recipe, or at least the ingredients, of gunge?“

Optimistically, almost as a joke, I also asked if they could send me a sample.

The publicist’s response was immediate and very positive: “I’ll fire this off to them now and hopefully have something back in next few days,” he wrote.

DJ Sir-Vere is gunged. (Photo: YouTube – 'What Now – A Sir-Vere Gunging')
DJ Sir-Vere is gunged. (Photo: YouTube – ‘What Now – A Sir-Vere Gunging’)

While I waited for answers from What Now I tried to think of anyone else I knew who might have some gunge intel. I asked Matt Gibb, former host of TVNZ children’s shows Squirt and Studio 2, if he had ever been gunged.

“God, not for about 16 years” he replied. “I don’t remember much other than being amazed at how fast they washed and dried my clothes. I couldn’t believe how clean they smelled afterwards.”

Matt’s vague gunge memories were of little use to me, but he said something else which ended up being a key part of the investigation. He suggested I talk to an old friend of his – a guy called Props Boy.

Chapter 4: Props Boy

Props Boy, who declined to use his real name for this story, is fondly remembered by millennial New Zealanders for his impish on-screen antics and trademark denim bucket hat with inbuilt orange visor. He appeared on What Now during what many call its “glory years” in the late 1990s and early 2000s, but his involvement with the show goes back years earlier.

Props Boy. (Photo: Unknown)
Props Boy. (Photo: Unknown)

Before he became the character Props Boy, Props Boy was literally What Now’s props boy. He started working for the show’s art department, helping out with props and set dressing, as a 13-year-old in 1992.

“I was there when gunge was invented,” he told me. “I saw it happening.”

“I have memories of seeing them mixing it up,” he claimed. “There was chat of trying loads of different recipes before then they came up with the one we used. It was invented by a guy named Pat Walsh.”

Props Boy described Pat Walsh as a “props master legend”.

“He took a lot of us under his wing and taught us the way of the gunge.” For much of his What Now career, it was Props Boy’s responsibility to make the gunge.

“I made gunge every week for about nine years,” he explained. “Gunge was made weekly at first, then when What Now weekdays started and the show was on every day we started making it every few days. Gunge takes a good day to set properly so you need about two days to make it properly.”

Props Boy estimates he was gunged “at least twice a week” over these nine years, “sometimes more.” It was one of the highlights of his job. “Every year when we would get a new gunge machine or game that involved gunge I would get to test it out.”

Props Boy has a more intimate and detailed knowledge of gunge than perhaps any other New Zealander, but he refused to reveal the recipe.

“It has always been a secret and I have never told anyone,” he said. “I cannot break my promise to Pat Walsh.”

Chapter 5: Pat Walsh

If Props Boy wouldn’t tell me the recipe for gunge, maybe its inventor would.

When I asked if he was still in contact with his gunge mentor, Props Boy sent me a link to Pat Walsh’s Facebook page. All it contained was a solitary profile photo, showing a silver-haired gentleman with a tidy grey beard. It was unmistakably taken by a webcam, uploaded on 26 May 2012. I sent him a message:

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It was futile. Pat Walsh, the inventor of gunge, does not check Facebook.

I did, however, notice a familiar name among his 57 friends: comedian Michele A’Court, who hosted What Now from 1987 to 1988. I emailed her to see if she could confirm Props Boy’s claims that Pat Walsh was the man who invented gunge.

“If [Props Boy] says Pat invented the recipe for gunge, I’d believe him,” she replied. “It certainly sounds like something Pat would do.”

Michele remembered Pat Walsh fondly: “He was everyone’s favourite Dad-figure – man of few words, always kind, approached everything with a ‘but of course’ attitude.”

“Pat was, I’m pretty sure, Set Design, and Tim [Stephenson] was Props, but they were joined at the hip, this great super-duo.”

“They would make anything happen,” Michele reminisced. “In my first year, Alasdair Kincaid (Frank Flash) and I, along with Danny Watson, would dream up ridiculous scenarios for the 17 comedy sketches we needed to write and perform for each episode.”

“Sometimes that would involve things like filling the whole studio with popcorn up to our necks, or baking five cakes in the shape of an “S” (no, I can’t remember why) and everyone else would look pale, and then Pat and Tim would go, ‘… OK’.”

Michele said she would try to find a current contact for Pat Walsh, but I never ended up talking the inventor of gunge.

Chapter 6: The answer

I had emailed my questions for What Now to the TVNZ publicist on Monday, and by Thursday morning I had yet to received any response. Then, this:

“What’s the best address for me to send the gunge to? Cheers.”

Hours later a parcel arrived at the Spinoff office via SUB60 courier. It contained four plastic bottles of bright blue What Now branded gunge.

I immediately unscrewed the cap on one of the bottles. My first instinct wasn’t to touch the gunge but instead to inhale deeply. The gunge smelled like cheap soap. It reminded me of primary school.

By this point several of my colleagues had gathered around my desk to see the gunge. Soon people were touching it. I poured some into a glass and dipped my fingers in it.

The gunge was much thinner than I expected it to be. On contact with the skin it just sort of dissolved like a disinfectant handwash. All my colleagues returned to their desks underwhelmed by the experience.

What could it be inside the bottle? I thought about contacting a scientist to see if they could do some kind of forensic analysis. Then I read the label:

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Chapter 7: Fake gunge

There it was, the answer to my question: gunge is a mixture of soap and non-toxic poster paint.

This should have been the end of my investigation.

Before I closed the case, I emailed Props Boy to present him with my findings, hoping to force a confession.

“I know you said you would never reveal the recipe of gunge and I respect that,” I wrote. “But are you able to confirm whether or not these are the same ingredients you were taught to make gunge with by Pat Walsh back in the 90s?”

Props Boy’s reply changed everything.

“Is the gunge you got sent one they give out to kids?” he asked. “In a little bottle? If so we did the same back in the day and it was basically shampoo.”

The implication was clear: What Now had sent me fake gunge.

Fake gunge? (Photo: Calum Henderson)
Fake gunge? (Photo: Calum Henderson / The Spinoff)

“Real gunge costs a lot to make,” Props Boy explained. “Giving it away as we used to make it would have been too expensive.”

He confirmed soap and non-toxic poster paint were not the original gunge ingredients.

“The original gunge was a soap-based product and water and food colouring. That was it. But the way you mixed these ingredients over a period of time made a difference!”

I pressed Props Boy to identify the soap-based product but he wouldn’t tell me. I asked if it was a thickening agent called Natrosol, cited on Wikipedia as the key ingredient in “authentic gunge.” He replied: “Nope I have never heard of that. Sounds dangerous.”

The soap-based product remains a secret.

Chapter 8: A conspiracy

Props Boy’s shocking revelation had drastically changed the parameters of my investigation.

I was faced with two possibilities, and both of them were scandalous: either What Now had sent me fake gunge, or the recipe for gunge had been changed.

I put the possibility of the first scenario to What Now via the TVNZ publicist. I emailed: “Can you confirm the gunge sent to us is the same as the gunge used on the show?”

Days later the publicist sent a statement from Morgan Williams, the current producer of What Now:

“I can confirm the gunge I sent is the very same as the stuff we use on the show,” the statement read. “No idea about the fake gunge you mention sorry.”

Original 1981 What Now host is gunged in a gunge chamber during an anniversary special. (Photo: YouTube – 'What Now's Best Gunge! (Part 2)')
Original 1981 What Now host Steve Parr is gunged in a gunge chamber during an anniversary special. (Photo: YouTube – ‘What Now’s Best Gunge! (Part 2)’)

I believed Morgan Williams when he said the gunge on my desk was the same gunge currently used on the show. It had long been my suspicion that the original recipe for gunge had been changed.

While I had been waiting for Williams’ response I started reading back over all the testimonies people had sent me about their gunge experiences. It struck me just how consistent all the descriptions of the texture and scent were.

There was one exception: Ashok.

Ashok was gunged in 2006, a few years later than any of the others. While everyone else described the gunge as cold and thick, he said “I don’t think it was that cold.” While the others uniformly described the smell as soapy, he said “it smelled like off custard.”

The explanation is simple: it was not the same gunge.

What Now has undergone three major location changes in its lifetime. From 1981 to 1999 the show was filmed at TVNZ Studios in Christchurch; in 1999 filming moved to Avalon Studios in Wellington, before returning to Christchurch in 2004 to be produced by Whitebait Media, a production company headed by Jason Gunn and his wife, Janine Morrell-Gunn.

When the show moved back to Christchurch in 2004 Props Boy stayed in Wellington. “I wasn’t even asked [to continue as Props Boy],” he told me. “They replaced me with [Camilla The Gorilla].”

All Blacks captain Kieran Read plays Fill Ya Pants with Camilla The Gorilla in 2011. (Photo: YouTube – 'What Now - Episode 34 - Fill Ya Pants With Kieran Read')
All Blacks captain Kieran Read plays ‘Fill Ya Pants’ with Camilla The Gorilla in 2011. (Photo: YouTube – ‘What Now – Episode 34 – Fill Ya Pants With Kieran Read’)

Props Boy confirmed some other members the props department did go with the show to Christchurch, and that they knew the original secret gunge recipe – “how to mix it, how long to let it set, what temperature to leave it all at and for how long.”

But it would seem the original gunge recipe was lost around the same time Props Boy left the show. By the time Ashok was gunged in 2006 What Now was already using a new formula.

Chapter 9: A theory

Since gunge was introduced in the early-mid 1990s, the quantities used on What Now have increased year-on-year. Where originally the show would have only gone through a few buckets of gunge a week, new games introduced in the 2000s such as ‘Slippery Pole’ and ‘Walk The Plank’ required large pools to be filled with gunge.

The title screen for 'Slippery Pole'. (Photo: YouTube – 'What Now's Best Gunge!')
The title screen for ‘Slippery Pole’. (Photo: YouTube – ‘What Now’s Best Gunge!’)

My theory is simple: as the demand for gunge grew, the show was forced to adopt a more cost-effective recipe.

In her email Michele told me about one of the precursors to gunge from back when she hosted What Now: the classic pie in the face.

“They were thick custard pies covered in cream and [very] delicious,” she drooled. “[We] bought them from Loef’s Bakery in Manchester Street.”

“They felt great on your face, and tasted even better. We would write cream pies into sketches as often as possible just so we could eat them.”

At one point in 1987 the show’s producers tried to save money by replacing Loef’s custard pies with shaving foam on a tinfoil plate. “They hurt your face and stung your eyes,” Michele remembered of the fake pies.

“Al and I complained, and Pat was entirely supportive. He thought fake pies were unprofessional.” Loef’s custard pies were reinstated, but with a strict limit on how many could be used.

Michele thinks this may be part of the reason gunge was eventually invented. It is the eternal struggle faced by What Now producers across the show’s 35-year history: “the need to smear someone in something without it costing so much.”

Chapter 10: Epilogue / Key findings

I did eventually get some answers to the questions I put to What Now via the TVNZ publicist right at the start of the investigation.

The response from current producer Morgan Williams and former producer Tony Palmer sidestepped my main question of “what is gunge?” Instead it focused on strongly refuting Ashok’s claim that his shoes were ruined by gunge.

“The stories of it ruining shoes, t-shirts and Sunday Best clothes have always been unlikely,” their message read. “You just have to rinse clothing / shoes and it comes out.”

The following are some of the key findings from the investigation:

– The original recipe for What Now gunge was invented by a set designer called Pat Walsh sometime around 1993.

– The original What Now gunge ingredients, according to a man responsible for making it, were “a soap-based product”, water and food colouring.

– This man, Props Boy, claims to have been gunged an estimate of 1000 times while working for the show.

– The most famous person Props Boy can remember gunging is “probably Cuba Gooding Junior”.

–  In the late 1990s and early 2000s What Now gave away souvenir bottles of ‘fake gunge’ to children. Props Boy claims this was because real gunge was too expensive to produce in large quantities.

– Some time after What Now’s relocation to Christchurch in 2004 the show appears to have deviated from the original gunge recipe.

– The current gunge ingredients are soap and non-toxic poster paint.

– Popular New Zealand broadcaster Simon Barnett has never been gunged.

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Pop CultureDecember 7, 2016

The Features: Nailing punk to the post

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Russell Baillie investigates The Features, the short-lived Auckland post-punk band whose 1979-1980 output has just been re-released.

When it came to nailing the ‘post-‘ to punk, there was no shortage of New Zealand groups swinging the hammer. But among those banging that hyphen into place hardest and earliest were The Features.

The Auckland band lasted for all of a year from late 1979 to 1980. But they achieved a few things in that time. There was the classic single ‘City Scenes’ and then the Perfect Features Exposed EP which effectively became a headstone. They would lay the groundwork for Fetus Productions, the pioneering outfit that was part industrial rock, part art project and a whole other story.

These days, the band’s surviving members are enmeshed in Auckland’s musical and cultural life. And while The Features, with their grim anatomical artwork and menacing sound, weren’t around for long, they accomplished one thing that changed New Zealand music history – they inspired Simon Grigg, don of Auckland independent labels, into the record making business.

Just as Flying Nun’s Roger Shepherd had The Clean as the band whose records he simply had to release, Grigg had The Features. Grigg says he went from mate of two guys in the band to an obsessive who never missed a gig.

Working in an inner-city Auckland record shop – there he is doing just that in a cameo in the ‘City Scenes’ video – Grigg borrowed a few hundred dollars to start his first label, Propeller, to record and release the band. ‘City Scenes’ was the Propeller catalogue’s no.1.

“The Features changed everything for me,” writes Grigg in the liner notes to X- Features, a newly remastered LP of the band’s collected works, jointly released on Propeller and that relative upstart indie, Flying Nun. “They were the reason I decided to start a record label back in 1980. That took me on a journey I still find myself on.”

The album collects the original single and EP and unreleased material, all remixed by band guitarist Jed Town. At times, the tracks can sound like the UK post-punk likes of Wire or John Lydon’s post-Sex Pistols’ mob Public Image Limited, which Town admits were big influences at the time.

At others, it can just sound like a drunken fight at a party, somewhere in central Auckland, 1980, set to song. And not just because one song is called ‘Party’ – that was inspired by Town seeing The Ramones at the very un-rock’n’roll Logan Park in Greenlane.

Elsewhere, they’re mischievous – turning The Beatles’ early lovey-dovey hit ‘Do You Want to Know a Secret’ into something vampire-like, while some songs come powered by pogo-paced punk-friendly quicksteps. But across the 14 tracks of X Features you get the sense that The Features were substituting the “oi” of the AK79 era for “art”.

“Post-punk was a real thing at the time. It’s hard to overstate now just how dull punk had become by the end of 78,” Grigg says when asked if he and the band knew they were on to something. “It was a dead-end defined by clichés, media and violence … the whole point of punk was to smash the barriers. Most bands simply became the barrier. The Features and a few others took the punk ethos and ran with it.”

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The Features, from left: Karel Van Bergen, Chris Orange, Jed Town, James Pinker

Grigg had been flatmates with Town and drummer James Pinker, who were in The Superettes together. The pair morphed into The Features after the departure of bassist Paul Kean to Chris Knox’s ascendant Toy Love and the recruitment of singer Karel Van Bergen (ex-Primmers) and bassist Chris Orange (ex-Terroways).Both the Primmers and The Terrorways had appeared on year-zero NZ punk compilation AK79.

The new band’s first show was opening for another AK79 outfit, The Marching Girls, at the Gluepot. Soon, The Features were, according to the Auckland Star, “the band of the moment” in the city and headlining venues like The Liberty Stage, and XS Café as well as touring down country.

With the powerful, fluid rhythm section of Orange and Pinker underneath Town’s sharp, ringing guitar (his aluminium-necked Travis Bean) and Van Bergen’s sneering, sarcastic delivery, they were soon standing out from the old punk pack.

“The killer rhythm section was in large part because these guys had jazz, soul, funk, disco roots as well as the rock and roll,” remembers Grigg. “Jed was and still is an absolutely unique guitarist and his voice intertwined with Karel elevated the sound. There was nothing ‘punk’ about The Features really.”

Still, it was loud and fast. But perplexing to the boot boy following of their previous bands. “I think we did inevitably confuse them which is a good thing,” Pinker remembers. “I have been told many times by many different people that we changed their thinking about punk music and set them on another course.”

Orange: “Our sets were fast and loud but very different from the Terrorways or Scavengers. More like The Enemy with mostly originals or godawful piss-takes of pop songs. Most people were into it – but we did have a few people who just wanted a rumble.”

The band had its own inner conflicts. Town and Van Bergen didn’t always see eye to eye. They almost beat each other up on stage at a show at Mainstreet, remembers Pinker.

Karel and I had major differences in attitude so there was a bit of friction,” says Town. “Karel tried to be sarcastic a lot and came across as up himself,” says Orange. Then again, he says, that was the attitude of the entire group.

“[We were] totally anarchic, completely dysfunctional, and up ourselves like no other band at the time. Except maybe Sheerlux or the Th’ Dudes.”

Then again, The Features were something special. There’s much evidence of that on the retrospective collection.

I do seriously believe we had something unique in our own little way,” says Pinker. “The mad, complicated songs … and the amazing conflict in the song structures and styles. The vocal anarchy and Chris’ sublime, heavy but exacting basslines.

“God only knows what and where we would have ended up had we stuck it out.”

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Playing on top of One Three Hill in 1980, from left: Jed Town, James Pinker, Karel Van Bergen, Chris Orange

The Features fell apart in late-1980. Having their gear stolen on a national tour earlier didn’t help. But Town decided to shift to Sydney to be followed by Van Bergen and Pinker. They would join the guitarist in an early first incarnation of his experimental Fetus Productions.

Town’s career continued a singular and often strange path, mixing music and visuals, shifting into techno in the late 80s under a new moniker, ICU. These days he mainly works on movie and television soundtracks while exploring new technology in his artistic pursuits.

He and Orange have occasionally revived The Features on stage in recent years as The X Features. Pinker hasn’t wanted to join in. Van Bergen died in Munich, where he was living, in 2013.

After Fetus Productions, Van Bergen and Pinker played together with Australian industrial group SPK, led by New Zealander Graeme Revell (now a major Hollywood soundtrack composer) before Pinker was replaced by a drum machine.

Van Bergen took his violin skills to London folk-rock outfit, The Band of Holy Joy, which released a run of albums on Rough Trade in the late 80s and early 90s.

Eventually based in London as a drummer-programmer, Pinker played and/or recorded with everybody from The Jesus and Mary Chain, to ambient/soundtrack guitarist Michael Brook to Pakistani World Music star Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan.

Pinker released a couple of albums under the name Heavenly Bodies before returning to New Zealand and establishing himself as a sound artist and curator. He gave up his manager’s job at the Māngere Arts Centre Ngā Tohu o Uenuku last year to work on the score for partner Lisa Reihana’s work at next year’s Venice Biennale. He still does electronic-art music as Haptic and has a band with Tom Bailey (International Observer/Thompson Twins) called Holiwater.

After “they went to Aussie without me” Orange took up double bass and songwriting and played in bands in Wellington and Auckland. He headed to Japan in the early 90s where he played free-jazz. These days he continues to play jazz while tutoring at MAINZ where he runs contemporary music performance programmes for the Bachelor of Musical Arts. He occasionally brings in Town to talk to students about his classic Fetus Productions pop song, ‘What’s Going On?’ Now, with the new album, he’ll be able to show his classes what a cool post-punk rocker he was at their age.

The Features live at the Windsor Castle, Parnell, in 1980. From left: Chris Orange, Karel Van Bergen, James Pinker, Jed Town.
The Features live at the Windsor Castle, Parnell, in 1980. From left: Chris Orange, Karel Van Bergen, James Pinker, Jed Town.

Being a Feature was a formative experience for all involved. Orange: “Playing Jed’s songs in the Features and the contrasts in the band – Karel’s sarcasm continually put up against Jed’s visionary goal for music as true art – were powerful influences on me at the time.”

Pinker: “We were a real band with all the shit – good and bad – and that is always a superb, special thing.”

All the surviving members are understandably chuffed with the reissue, especially Town, who spent three months on the remixes. It’s also getting a release in Europe via a Spanish fan who approached Grigg to put it out on his tiny label.

Pinker: “I have to remind myself that I was in my late teens when we recorded these songs and now after more than 30 years of being a musician, I’m pretty impressed that the band sounded so darn good.”

And the final words go to Grigg, who, in those liner notes, puts his heart on his sleeve. “Jed’s vulnerable, intensely beautiful vocal entry into the magnificent ‘Victim’ is the finest thing I’ve ever released.”

Really?

“I love a great many records I’ve released over the years,” says the man who helped back the Screaming Mee Mees, Blam Blam Blam, Nathan Haines and OMC to name a few.  

“But ‘Victim’ was and is very special. James and I mixed it at Harlequin after Jed had gone to Australia. I remember playing that vocal over and over and it just destroyed me. The part where Jed comes in after Karel’s vocal … I have no words.” 


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