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Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern welcomes the crowd at St Jerome’s Laneway Festival on January 29, 2018 (Photo by Dave Simpson/Getty Images).
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern welcomes the crowd at St Jerome’s Laneway Festival on January 29, 2018 (Photo by Dave Simpson/Getty Images).

Pop CultureMay 16, 2018

Jacinda Ardern on New Zealand music: ‘Creativity is what will continue to set us apart’

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern welcomes the crowd at St Jerome’s Laneway Festival on January 29, 2018 (Photo by Dave Simpson/Getty Images).
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern welcomes the crowd at St Jerome’s Laneway Festival on January 29, 2018 (Photo by Dave Simpson/Getty Images).

Elleana Dumper asks the PM about all-ages shows, the problems facing the music industry and whether she ever considered a career in music.

This New Zealand Music Month, I’ve really been enjoying the social media chit-chat – it’s that time of the year when everyone’s Kiwi musical sentiments are high, and we get to celebrate everything there is to love about the New Zealand music industry. Even the prime minister jumped in on the action and curated her own homegrown Spotify playlist (fire taste might I add, Jacinda).

Then Paula Bennett came along to burst our happy NZMM bubble with a red card for the PM. Paula didn’t have time for music when she was a minister, she tweeted, and Jacinda should be focused on running the country. If I’m to take anything from her trigger-happy tweeting, it’s to not let Paula get a hold of the aux cord.

As a second-year industry major of the Bachelor of Commercial Music degree in Wellington and a graduate of the 2016 Ignite Programme*, I have to disagree with Ms Bennett. I believe music has become one of our most precious commodities, and I think Jacinda Ardern is right to care about music made by New Zealand artists.

Lorde, Aldous Harding, Marlon Williams and Montell2099 are a few artists who are doing the most for New Zealand’s eclectic musical footprint at the moment. If their global success is anything to go by, surely it’s about time we invest more into our local music scene and encourage young people to pursue careers as artists and in roles behind the scenes.

It’s from our young local scenes that passionate artists and punters emerge, and where the roots of our future music industry will grow. We need more access to live music for young people in order to maintain a thriving and inclusive live landscape. Instead, the number of venues that cater to all ages continues to dwindle.

As the ears of the world continue to tune in, the value and necessity of future-proofing our music industry will only increase. Our current government should care about nurturing the next generation of New Zealanders who want an opportunity to make a living from music. So, who better to ask about how we can do this than Jacinda Ardern who is not only our prime minister but the minister for arts, culture and heritage? (oh yes, and she’s also a DJ).

Jacinda Ardern DJing at the 2014 Laneway Festival in Auckland

Elleana Dumper: Attending your first live show is often a special memory for many people. What were some of your first experiences with live music?

Jacinda Ardern: There definitely wasn’t a local scene in Morrinsville! That’s probably why my first live show – Portishead in Auckland – was so memorable.

Your enthusiasm towards the music scene, shown with your appearances at the likes of the VNZMAs and Laneway Festival, continues to intrigue the nation. Did you ever consider pursuing music as a career?

Anyone who overheard me try and play a musical instrument will know the answer to that! I’ve always been a very important supporter of the music industry, but never considered anything beyond that.

The New Zealand music industry is thriving with some of the best artists in the world right now – Lorde, Aldous Harding – to name but a couple. How do we nurture and continue to grow the industry and its reputation for producing world-class music?

I genuinely think it starts right at the beginning and the work we do to foster creativity at a young age and build careers from there. That’s my focus anyway.

You must speak to a lot of people in the industry in your capacity minister of arts, culture and heritage. What is one of the biggest challenges New Zealand artists face and how do you intend to tackle it?

Sustainability – whether it’s building career pathways or ensuring the careers our artists are well supported. There’s a lot we can do in this space.

Developing a compelling stage presence is an integral part of becoming a great artist. Look at acts like Anika Moa, Dave Dobbyn – their careers started through endless gigging, which just isn’t an option for so many young and up-and-coming Kiwi acts. How can we fix the problem?

Venues matter and so does creating platforms where young people can perform, like Rockquest. It’s all about the eco-system.

One of the issues I have personally encountered is the lack of suitable venues which are available for young bands to play in, as well as keen punters to experience the thrill of live music.  Surely this lack of suitable spaces – which is a growing problem – will impact the growth and development of many young acts and artists?

It certainly has the potential to – but at the same time, every school hall, every community space has the potential to be a form of venue.

Nowadays, being ‘underage’ is almost always tied to young people missing out on age-restricted gigs.  I for sure had my fair share of whinges from feeling shut out of venues and events from small club shows through to festivals . How do you explain to a young person that they can’t enjoy music simply because they are not of legal drinking age?

Another good reason to ensure we have a range of options!

It seems that a lot of young people who love music don’t take music as a subject in high school – what do you think are the reasons for this?

Probably a fear about what the future holds. My message would be that creativity is what will continue to set us apart alongside STEM subjects.

* The IGNITE Programme is a free, not-for-profit organisation that aims to encourage young people aged 15-18 to pursue a career in music. The participants are paired with industry mentors and attend seminars, workshops, tour local venues and do work experience. They’re also guided by their mentors through the process of running their own shows, culminating in four all-ages gigs in Auckland. IGNITE has just launched a Boosted campaign to raise funds to help support the cost of running these shows. For more information click here!


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Corin Dann moderates a debate during the 2017 campaign. Photo: Getty
Corin Dann moderates a debate during the 2017 campaign. Photo: Getty

Pop CultureMay 16, 2018

With $38m on the table, TVNZ suddenly remembers how to do public broadcasting

Corin Dann moderates a debate during the 2017 campaign. Photo: Getty
Corin Dann moderates a debate during the 2017 campaign. Photo: Getty

The state-owned broadcaster has long resisted public service. Yet with $38m on the table, and the government’s relationship with RNZ rocky, moving Q+A to primetime could be be seen as a deftly timed olive branch

The press release, under the headline “TVNZ powers up primetime political coverage”, came out at 3:25pm yesterday afternoon – until recently about as prominent a time slot as politics could hope to achieve in New Zealand outside of close proximity to an election.

Yet the release, which talked about TVNZ “showing its commitment to political coverage”, was about much more than rescheduling a TV show. The shift of its flagship politics show Q+A from Sunday morning to evening is a bold strategic move. It’s also a clear signal to this government that TVNZ is no longer the headstrong child stubbornly resisting direction, but is in fact more than willing to listen when there are incentives to do so. Especially, perhaps, 38,000,000 incentives.

The background is this: when last in government Labour was persistently infuriated by TVNZ’s refusal to act like a state broadcaster and deliver what it considered important works of current affairs and culture to the people. To help push it toward this Helen Clark’s government introduced the “charter” in 2003, which enshrined some non-commercial outcomes and provided a $15m annual funding boost to help achieve them.

TVNZ, for its part, focused near-entirely on its bottom line – returning an after tax profit of $19.4m in 2008. Infamously, it used charter funding to successfully bid on the 2008 Olympics in Beijing.

When National came to power late in 2008, it announced the charter a failure (which wasn’t entirely unfair, it having been rejected by its host), and rolled the annual $15m into an NZ on Air platinum fund – used to create premium products which the agency wouldn’t ordinarily be able to back, like… Q+A.

The political current affairs show, along with its similarly oriented counterpart Newshub Nation on Three, has always been at the heart of the infuriating enigma of the NZ on Air model. Which is to say that it produces some excellent products, made for the right reasons and with genuine civic values at their heart – and then the public and funding agency watches aghast as they’re played mid-morning Saturday and Sunday, timeslots destined to ensure minimal audience and engagement outside of the tiny political tragic demographic.

This has long-enraged a relatively small yet vocal contingent who view state-owned mass communication rather like Lord Reith, the legendary founder of the BBC, who thought it should inform, educate and entertain – in that order – and was famously disdainful of anything popular for its own sake. In New Zealand there is a long cultural memory of state controlled broadcasting – which lasted until the radical reforming 80s – and a perpetual grumbling at various pitches of prominent people wanting a return to that era.

It reached its apex in 2006, when an open letter was published in the Herald saying that, due to the commercial model, “New Zealanders get the worst deal of any in the western world”, and asking “remember Closer to Home? McPhail & Gadsby? Gallery?”.

It was signed by 31 prominent New Zealanders, including five knights, four dames, a cardinal and a QC, and sought “radical change”. It did not get it.

Latterly a similar sentiment has assembled under the umbrella of the Coalition for Better Broadcasting (now known as the Better Public Media trust), part of whose initial manifesto talked about disavowing anything which “treats audiences like idiots”. Not hard to imagine what they think of Dancing with the Stars.

Neither Helen Clark nor John Key were profoundly moved by the letter nor the coalition, yet the desire never went away. For the past few years they have had a key sympathiser in Clare Curran, formerly opposition spokesperson for broadcasting, but since October the minister for broadcasting, communications and digital media. And, in Paul Thompson’s galvanised RNZ, a radio product which not only largely fits their ideal, but is growing in listeners and online viewers as a result.

So, when part of the then-opposition Labour party’s policy platform included a $38m boost to public broadcasting, the coalition and its sympathisers applauded. The spectre of RNZ+, including more digital and even a television channel, was particularly well-received. “RNZ+ will become the multi-platform public service operator we need for the digital future,” the CBB chair Peter Thompson said at the time. “Labour’s policy will redress the current government’s short-sighted decision to shutdown [late ad-free channel] TVNZ 7.”

He went on to note that “crucially, this is not a return to the confusing dual commercial/public remit of the TVNZ Charter.” Indeed, TVNZ was notably shunned by the new policy, mentioned only as a services provider for the new RNZ+ – one in which Labour had so little trust that pointedly talked about those services being provided “at audited and transparent cost with an agreed margin”.

That was nine months ago. In the intervening time things have gotten pretty spicy. There was that meeting at Astoria café, which eventually led to senior RNZ exec Carol Hirshfeld’s resignation. That led to an extraordinary select committee appearance by outgoing RNZ chair Richard Griffin. RNZ has even appeared somewhat non-committal about the prospect of starting a linear TV channel in an era when the format is in reasonably rapid decline. And all the while there has been a private battle being waged between NZ on Air and RNZ about who will control how much of that $38m. (Whether the full $38m materialises in tomorrow’s budget remains to be seen: recent whisperings suggest it may be closer to $25m.)

TVNZ must have watched this chaos with some satisfaction. Now, having endured some internal political reporting ructions of its own, it has beefed up its press gallery team with excellent reporters from within (Seven Sharp’s Maiki Sherman) and without (RNZ’s Benedict Collins), and put the superb Corin Dann on the Q+A hosting job full-time – with a Beehive office for good measure.

Moving the show a full 12 hours later in the day suddenly makes Sunday nights look quite different: the news, Country Calendar, current affairs, Coast New Zealand or British drama – then Q+A, which might as well be a reboot of… Gallery, the political current affairs show which ran from 1968-1973 and was notably mourned in that open letter. It’s a throwback Sunday on the biggest media platform we have.

All of which looks a lot like a peace offering from TVNZ. The timing is brilliant: its chief state-owned rival for funding is licking its wounds, and its chief TV rival is agitating for TVNZ1 to become non-commercial, while almost no one has any expectations of it anymore. And here, out of a clear blue sky, it brings serious political current affairs back to the TVNZ primetime for the first time in years.

It’s a clear indication that the channel can, when the right circumstances present, do things which are on the face of it public-spirited and non-commercial. That it does so at a time when there’s a budget looming and there just happens to be a large pot of money looking for a home is, surely, just a coincidence.


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