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Submitters Sara Cole Stratton, students from Newlands College and Riki Welsh, and acting Justice Committee chair Duncan Webb (Image: The Spinoff)

PoliticsFebruary 7, 2025

Treaty principles bill hearings, day three: The Justice Committee works from home

A collage shows three people in a meeting room, two wearing glasses. In the background, three others in uniforms tear pieces of paper.
Submitters Sara Cole Stratton, students from Newlands College and Riki Welsh, and acting Justice Committee chair Duncan Webb (Image: The Spinoff)

Everything you missed from the third day of the Treaty principles bill hearings, when the Justice Committee heard four hours of oral submission.

Read our recaps of day one of the hearings here, and day two here

Parliament was quiet on Friday for the third day of hearings on the Treaty principles bill. Select committee room 3 sat empty but for a couple of parliamentary staff. MPs were away at Waitangi or in their home electorates, so the four hours of submissions took place entirely on Zoom. Labour MP Duncan Webb chaired the meeting in front of an overwhelming green photo of Ōtākaro/the Avon River.

The third day of hearings didn’t feature as many dramatic showdowns as the previous two – the combination of online presentations, the process dragging on, and the fact that it was a Friday seemed to sap some of the previous energy. But even on a comparatively slower day, there were moments of laughs, tears and tension.

Joseph Xulué opened the submissions on behalf of the Pacific Lawyers Association. He identified himself as an indigenous Kanak of New Caledonia who “vehemently opposed” the bill. “We stand together with tangata whenua Māori as indigenous people of Te Moana Nui a Kiwa,” he said.

Riki Welsh spoke on behalf of Pacific Youth Leadership and Transformation. “Our community feels that Pasifika people should not be neutral, we should be in support of Māori,” he said. He stood out for his spiky hair, background of anime characters, and for beginning his speech with “whoop whoop!”.

Riki Welsh presenting for Pacific Youth Leadership and Transformation (PYLAT).

Liz Davies of SociaLink, a charitable trust operating in western Bay of Plenty, said culturally responsive services were critical for healthcare in underserved communities, “and this bill threatens those outcomes”.

Liana Poutu, a trustee of Te Kotahitanga o Te Atiawa Trust, used her time to read sections of the Crown’s apology as part of the Taranaki Maunga redress bill, which passed in parliament last week. “The Crown is sorry that the promise of partnership that arose in 1840 so quickly became a history of conflict confiscation and neglect”, and “The Crown also looks to a future where Taranaki Maunga symbolises and embodies a relationship with you that is founded on trust and a shared respect for Te Tiriti o Waitangi.” She argued that the Treaty principles bill would bring into question the nearly 100 Treaty settlements that the Crown has already signed.

Kaea Tibble spoke during the submission for Poupatatē Marae Inc – Ngati Pikiahu on behalf of young people, though at age 23 he said he was “holding onto rangatahi status by a thread”. He said the bill’s proponents were “gaslighting” their supporters about Crown-Māori relationships, but that his generation was becoming more determined to defend te Tiriti.

Former race relations conciliator Gregory Fortuin said the relationship between the Crown and Māori was worse than when he was in office from 2001-02 and could hurt New Zealand’s international standing. “If we want to lecture others on human rights, we shouldn’t neglect our own obligations,” he said. He argued that, if the bill went to a referendum, it needed to be two referendums – one for all voters, and one specifically for Māori.

Tasha Hohaia similarly focused on New Zealand’s global reputation. She spoke about attending a recent UN conference on indigenous issues. “The talk of the town at the UN was ‘Oh how your country has regressed’. That’s the shame and embarrassment that this bill is bringing us as a nation,” she said.

Merita Levave, a teacher at Newlands College, gave her five-minute presentation with a classroom of students in the background. As she wrapped up her speech, the students all stood up, ripped pieces of paper representing the bill, and shouted “Toitu te Tiriti”.

Newlands College students tearing up the bill.

Former Labour minister and Rotorua mayor Steve Chadwick said she was “really saddened” to speak, but hoped that “some good will come of this conversation”. She highlighted successful partnerships between the council and iwi during her mayoralty.

Sara Cole Stratton teared up while describing the work of Sir James Hēnare and his vision to reclaim the mana of te Tiriti. “I feel so passionate and angry I could cry,” she said in a shaking voice.

Sara Cole Stratton holding back tears.

Murray Hawkes supported the bill and said he told his children to move overseas because “I cannot recommend that they live their lives in a country divided upon racial lines”. Drawing from several years working in the oil and gas industry, he said, “I can honestly say that New Zealand is the most corrupt and least attractive regulatory environment that I’ve worked in, because of the ambiguity and the need for preference towards Māori, there are demands of race-based payments at every step.”

Roger Gower, who also supported the bill, accused successive governments of pursuing “race-based policies that undermine democracy” and extensively quoted Martin Luther King Jr’s “I Have a Dream” speech.

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In the final submission of the day, Mokonuiarangi Kingi of Te Taumata o Ngati Whakaue Iho Ake Trust called for a major constitutional change to honour te Tiriti and the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, and suggested New Zealand form a collective body with other indigenous nations. He criticised prime minister Christopher Luxon for allowing the bill to come this far, saying, “It lays the seed for future discontent in another five or 10 years unless Māori decide to act now, mobilise, and do something about it.”

With the final submission complete, MPs didn’t hang around to chat. “It’s been a good day. Kia ora, ka kite,” Duncan Webb said as he signed off and closed the stream.

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PoliticsFebruary 7, 2025

Who is in and who is out in the big mayoral races of 2025?

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The clock is ticking in the great chain chase. 

2025 is an election year in New Zealand. Not the general variation, obviously, but the local form. If you’re thinking of running, nominations open in just five months, and your chances are good – about 50% across the various races; in 2022 almost 250 candidates were elected unopposed. 

For now, most of the activity is focused on the mayoral contests, so to whet your appetite, here’s the state of play in the bigger centres: who has announced either way so far, with about 30 weeks until voting opens. 

Auckland

Every blockbuster* needs a good teaser promo, and that was delivered this week in the form of an afternoon comedy that began with the New Zealand Herald headline, “Wayne Brown wants deputy mayor Desley Simpson to step down after she eyes his job”, and ended a couple of hours later when the very same Herald report on the very same URL was updated with a new headline, “Wayne Brown quashes reports he expects Desley Simpson to step down”.

URL versus headline

That burst of finger-pointing Spider-Men followed revelations that Simpson’s son had recently registered the domain Desleyformayor.co.nz. He’d done so as “a bit of a laugh”, said Simpson – but she wouldn’t rule out a run for the top Supercity job. 

So where does that leave us? Wayne Brown is almost certain to announce any day now that he will stand for re-election, probably on a platform as the fixer getting the fixing finished. Desley Simpson is a maybe.  

There are whispers circulating that the Greens and Labour have been casting around for a candidate, with one prominent TV personality mentioned. Or former minister and union man Michael Wood? “Absolutely not,” he told the Spinoff. “It’s more likely that Shane Jones wins a rainbow alliance award for services to humility and inter-cultural relations.” Roger that. How about councillor Richard Hills? No response by time of publication. 

Will she or won’t she? Desley Simpson, deputy mayor (Image: Supplied/Archi Banal)

Whau councillor Kerrin Leoni is in. “I’m standing because members of my iwi Ngāti Paoa and people across Auckland have asked me to stand,” she wrote on social media last weekend. “Aucklanders I’ve spoken to want change, a younger woman as mayor who will bring fresh ideas to Auckland Council and our Super City.”

And returning for another bash is Ted Johnston. “It is time for competence and good policies to be the decider,” said the former Conservative leader, lawyer and eggee. 

Paula Bennett has ruled out any run in 2025 and so has Leo Molloy, who withdrew from the contest mid-campaign last time. 

What about former National leader and Auckland Business Chamber Simon Bridges? He was the most popular possibility put to respondents in a Curia poll for the Ratepayers Alliance in March last year (followed by Brown, Bennett and Simpson). Asked by the Spinoff if he had officially ruled out a mayoral run in 2025, Bridges said: “YES!” 

He added: “After taking all summer to deliberate and gaze at his navel Bridges remembered to ask his wife what to think. Let’s just say she wasn’t that keen.”

* Admittedly “blockbuster” is an ambitious description of an event that attracted 35.4% turnout last time round

Hamilton

The city of the future will have a new mayor, after Paula Southgate announced she wouldn’t seek a third term. She told the Waikato Times in the first days of 2025 that she was airing her decision early to “make space for younger emerging leaders to potentially come to the table and [to] let the community know I’m not running so that they can reach out to their groups and see who’s out there”.

In a follow-up for the Times, Stephen Ward asked sitting councillors whether they were keen to fill that vacancy. Ewan Wilson – a former candidate and keen travel vlogger – is considering a run. As are two other centre-right councillors: Geoff Taylor, a runner-up in 2022 and former Mills & Boon novelist, is one; the other is former National MP Tim Macindoe.

Maxine van Oosten was meanwhile unlikely but “happy to consider” the possibility. Louise Hutt, who stood for the mayoralty in 2019 on a progressive platform, was also mulling the idea. Sarah Thomson told the paper it was “not on the cards at this stage” but neither was it out of the question. 

Former Hamilton mayoral candidate and current deputy mayor Angela O’Leary is another possible runner. [Update, Feb 10: O’Leary has responded to say that she is not consisdering a run for the mayoralty this year.]

Tauranga

Tauranga mayor Mahé Drysdale will not face any challengers this year, and that is because there won’t be an election. Having been run by government-appointed commissioners for four years until elections last year, Tauranga City Council’s next election will be in 2028. (Bay of Plenty Regional Council will have elections as normal.)

Lower Hutt

Two-term Labour mayor Campbell Barry told RNZ this week that he was still doing the pros and cons list on whether to stand for a third mayoral term in October’s election. His closest challenger last time around was Tony Stallinger, who had previously been the council’s CEO. Will he stand again? “I’ve no intention to run for the mayoralty this year,” Stallinger told us. “I’ve yet to decide whether to seek re-election as a councillor.”

Wellington

The term to date has been – to put it mildly – bumpy for Mayor Tory Whanau. But she’s consistently said she is committed to running for re-election as part of what she calls a two-term project. Whanau, who won in a landslide in 2022 but is likely to face sterner challenges this year, told RNZ she would focus her campaign on water, transport, climate change initiatives and housing.

The second- and third-placed candidates from 2022, Andy Foster and Paul Eagle, are out of the picture, focused now respectively on roles as NZ First list MP and CEO of the Chatham Islands Council. But the fourth, councillor Ray Chung, is in. He announced it in May last year in an attempt to secure the status as the leading challenger from the centre-right. 

What about Justin Lester? He has insisted that recent initiatives are no stealth campaign ahead of a bid to win back the office he lost by 62 votes to Foster in 2019, but he’s also saying, “never say never”.  

In a survey of possible contenders for the Post, Tom Hunt reports that conservationist Kelvin Hadie is running again, councillor John Apanowicz is a maybe, “ice cream guy” Karl Tiefenbacher is “definitely considering” and tech guy Luke Pierson appears to be giving it serious consideration. Graham Bloxham, former operator of Wellington Live and branch enthusiast, is another who has announced he is standing. No word yet from seasoned candidate and Sudoku philosopher Donald McDonald.

Christchurch

The sitting mayor, Phil Mauger, confirmed a fortnight ago that he will run again, but only after “his website, which was under development, inadvertently confirmed on Monday morning his bid to retain the top job”, according to the Press. His stated priorities include affordable rates, council stability, essential services and infrastructure projects.

In 2022 Mauger edged out rival independent David Meates by a couple of percentage points but there is no indication yet from Meates that he’ll go again. Back in October, Sara Templeton announced she’d be running. The three-term councillor is a former Green Party member who will stand as an independent.

No word yet on veteran mayoral candidates The Wizard or Tubby Hansen.

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Dunedin

Jules Radich, who unseated Green mayor Aaron Hawkins in 2022, is back for more, telling the Otago Daily Times, “There are many things that I still want to do.”

He’ll face a challenge from motor dealer Andrew Simms who is leading a Future Dunedin ticket concerned about the current council’s “lack of vision and lack of direction and lack of leadership”. Hawkins told the ODT he had “three jobs and I’m not looking for another one right now”.

No word, meanwhile, on whether Slime the Nitrate Monster has any ongoing ambitions in local government.  

Key dates

Candidate nominations open on July 4 and close on August 1. Candidates will be announced a week later and voting papers sent out by the independent companies that run the elections by September 9. Voting closes at noon on October 11.

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