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Baby Done writer Sophie Henderson, right, and the film’s stars Matthew Lewis and Rose Matafeo
Baby Done writer Sophie Henderson, right, and the film’s stars Matthew Lewis and Rose Matafeo

MediaOctober 24, 2020

How Sophie Henderson got Baby Done done

Baby Done writer Sophie Henderson, right, and the film’s stars Matthew Lewis and Rose Matafeo
Baby Done writer Sophie Henderson, right, and the film’s stars Matthew Lewis and Rose Matafeo

The writer of the acclaimed new Rose Matafeo comedy tells Sam Brooks how her own experiences as an expectant mother inspired the script.

When writer-actress Sophie Henderson first started trying to become pregnant with her husband, director and actor Curtis Vowell, she didn’t expect it to happen so fast. She probably also didn’t expect that a few years after the birth of their daughter Matilda she’d be waiting for the film inspired by that pregnancy to arrive in cinemas. But, of course, that’s what happened.

Henderson says her experience of pregnancy was far from the chilled-out Instagram-influencer ideal. “I freaked out so badly and I was not feeling the right feelings. I was not a good pregnant woman, I had no way of being pregnant. I started thinking that that was it – the end of my dreams. So me and Curtis were like, “What are all the wild things we’ve got to get done before we have a baby?”

Instead of doing those things, the couple wrote a film about it. They didn’t even get to do any of the wild things.

The film, Baby Done, starring Rose Matafeo (from many Rose Matafeo things) and Matthew Lewis (from the wizard franchise) premiered in New Zealand cinemas this week. It’s had rave reviews – including from our own Leonie Hayden and four stars from the Guardian – and has been the talk of local social media. If you’re following any New Zealand actor, comedian or entertainment-adjacent influencer on socials, chances are you’ve seen them post about loving it. That’s because it’s really good.

The film follows Zoe (Matefeo), an arborist who works with her boyfriend Tim (Lewis). Zoe is set on she and Tim not being another baby-obsessed couple, throwing gender reveal parties and dropping their lives for the new addition to their family. But, of course, she ends up finding out she’s pregnant. And she does not deal with it well.

It’s an experience that Henderson knows well. When she found out she was pregnant, she and Vowell were living in Melbourne. “We just got a whiteboard out. That was my way of coping with the pregnancy. Instead of buying stretchy clothes and thinking of names, I didn’t do anything to prepare except write this movie.

“I went into full denial that there would be a baby at the end of this pregnancy.”

Sophie Henderson and her daughter with Baby Done star Rose Matafeo during a break in filming. (Photo: Supplied)

One of the most remarkable things about Baby Done, other than Rose Matafeo’s glorious performance, is that Zoe’s edges aren’t sanded down at all. She’s unashamedly ambitious and stubborn; she suffers no bullshit. She’s the kind of character you can imagine making producers nervous, the kind of person you’d either warm to at a party or walk away from immediately.

“I had a lot of notes to make her more likeable, make her more feminine and I refused,” says Henderson “That is not what this is. We love characters because of their flaws, not despite them. Because we’ve got them and are like, ‘that’s me.’”

It’s also frankly, surprising to see a pregnant woman depicted in such a physical role as Zoe, an arborist who dreams of being a world tree-climbing champion. It’s not that pregnant women can’t do physical labour, obviously, but we so rarely see that depicted (Frances McDormand’s legendary Marge Gunderson in Fargo is a notable exception). Even though Baby Done is a film about pregnancy, Henderson writes Zoe in such a way that we know there was a Zoe before the film started, and will be one afterwards.

People like Zoe are the kind of characters Henderson is drawn to writing. Her previous film, Fantail – directed by Vowell, who also directed Baby Done – featured a similarly edgy lead character: a white-presenting Māori woman (played by Henderson herself) stuck between two cultures. While Baby Done couldn’t be more tonally different than the sombre Fantail, the writer’s voice is strong in both.

Sophie Henderson with her husband Curtis Vowell, watching the monitor on the set of Baby Done. (Photo: Supplied)

The film isn’t just close to Henderson because it’s inspired by her own life. She also, of course, made it with her husband. “We worked together before we were together. We have the same taste, so everything can be tested,” she says.

“There’s no politeness. We’ll tell each other something is shit and we’ve gotta go again. I know he loves me, so he doesn’t need to be polite about the work, it’s all about the work.”

That closeness allowed for a fluid relationship on set. Henderson would be there every day, and she likes to think she played an important role as intermediary between director and cast. “I can solve things, or he can blame things on me. If the actors don’t want to do it, he can be like, ‘Sophie says! Sophie says that they need to stand on either side of the incubator. It’s really important it’s done as written! As written!’

“It just becomes all about the film. Because we just care about the film so much. Our whole lives became about the film, and parenting, and nothing else. There are no boundaries.”

There’s one boundary, though: she doesn’t want her kids to see the film. “I was not as wild as the character is. She does some borderline things. I really just pushed the boundaries of what the audience will think is acceptable for a pregnant woman.

“But you definitely watch it with my kids in mind. Like, they’ll know when it’s autobiographical. They’ll go, ‘Wow, Mum and Dad – that’s twisted.’ We did a speech for the media screening and wanted to practise it in front of our kids and then went, “Oh no, we can’t say any of this in front of our kids!’”

Baby Done is in cinemas now.

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US President Donald Trump (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
US President Donald Trump (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

OPINIONMediaOctober 23, 2020

The strange hijacking of RNZ’s US debate preview

US President Donald Trump (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
US President Donald Trump (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

It’s normal to feature two different perspectives discussing a major US political set piece. Yet this morning RNZ’s flagship Morning Report hosted two unabashed Trump acolytes ahead of the final debate.

At 2pm New Zealand time, the final debate between president Donald Trump and his challenger, Joe Biden, takes place in Nashville, Tennessee. It’s Trump’s last big chance to sway the voters that have turned against him, and so it made sense that Morning Report would bring on a couple of US political commentators to discuss the issues likely to come up at the debate. What many listeners may have found surprising was RNZ’s choice of guests. The two invited to speak to RNZ’s flagship news programme were Ashe Schow, a senior editor for The Daily Wire – the Ben Shapiro co-founded website which publishes some truly toxic content and is alleged to have knowingly circulated misinformation on Facebook – and David Harsanyi, a senior writer at the National Review, one of America’s most famous conservative magazines. Harsanyi is also the author of the book The People Have Spoken (and They Are Wrong): The Case Against Democracy.

Together, Schow and Harsanyi supplied Morning Report with nine minutes of Trump talking points, their focus largely on allegations concerning Hunter Biden, Joe Biden’s son. Schow likened the Bidens to the mafia and claimed that Joe Biden had “used his son in order to enrich himself”. Harsanyi chimed in to agree. “There is a lot of evidence that Joe Biden could have benefitted from the things that Hunter was doing,“ he said.

What’s the obsession with Hunter Biden, again? You may remember his focal role in the impeachment proceedings against Trump earlier this year, and he’s back in the news thanks to some dubiously sourced emails published in the tabloid New York Post on October 14. Most of these emails – released via Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who is currently dealing with his own embarrassing revelations – are relatively trivial (and also occasionally genuinely touching) personal messages exchanged with family and friends.

However Trump supporters have seized on one email they claim as proof that Joe Biden met with an adviser to Ukrainian energy company Burisma, where Hunter Biden was a board member. It should be noted that the email neither substantiates the claim – the adviser thanks Hunter Biden for “the opportunity” to meet his father, but there is no proof any meeting ever took place – nor has it been shown to be authentic. Doubts about the veracity and sourcing of the story caused New York Post reporters to refuse to attach their bylines to it, and prompted Facebook and Twitter to throttle its circulation.

Still, Schow and Harsanyi argued, the US media should be covering the emails in the same way they treated the leak of Hillary Clinton’s emails four years ago – turning it into a story that many believe played a decisive role in handing the 2016 election to Trump. Said Harsanyi, “I’m not saying you have to run a story saying [the Biden allegation] was true, but certainly that was enough evidence to investigate and follow the story. These newspapers follow stories with far lower standards of evidence.”

Later, Schow claimed Joe Biden had threatened to ban fracking (he has not), and that today’s debate moderator, Kristin Welker, will use “the mute button” to disadvantage Trump (she can’t – the debaters will be automatically muted during each other’s opening statements; Welker has no “mute button” of her own). According to Schow, Welker “has shown a bias towards Democrats in the past, so she’s certainly going to use [the button] against Trump”.

During the interview, presenter Corin Dann repeatedly challenged both guests on their claims, and told listeners that Schow is a “right-leaning” writer. However no such label was attached to Dann’s other guest. Harsanyi’s worldview is clear: as well as his role at the National Review, he is a columnist for the New York Post, the newspaper that was the focus of today’s interview – an important fact that went undisclosed. As an author, Harasanyi’s books include Obama’s Four Horsemen: The Disasters Unleashed by Obama’s Reelection; and Nanny State: How Food Fascists, Teetotaling Do-Gooders, Priggish Moralists, and other Boneheaded Bureaucrats are Turning America into a Nation of Children.

Having been given nearly 10 minutes to tag team attacks on Biden with a fellow “right-leaning” commentator, Harsanyi couldn’t help feeling a little smug. “I think a New Zealand program accidentally invited me on with @AsheSchow thinking I was going to be a liberal and debate her,” he tweeted this morning. “That didn’t work out.”

RNZ have been approached for comment.