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Happy 1000th birthday, you guys (Photo: TVNZ / Design: Archi Banal)
Happy 1000th birthday, you guys (Photo: TVNZ / Design: Archi Banal)

Pop CultureJune 23, 2022

‘We’re like a couple of old cockroaches’: Seven Sharp duo bring up 1,000 episodes

Happy 1000th birthday, you guys (Photo: TVNZ / Design: Archi Banal)
Happy 1000th birthday, you guys (Photo: TVNZ / Design: Archi Banal)

As they raise their bats in celebration of a broadcasting milestone, Hilary Barry and Jeremy Wells tell Tara Ward it’s a privilege to be on the telly every night.

Hilary Barry and Jeremy Wells first sat down on the Seven Sharp couch together on February 5, 2018. At the time it felt like it could go either way – Newsboy? At 7pm? – but 1000 episodes later the pair is still going strong, keeping viewers informed about everything from mask trends to kiwifruit picking to She Sheds. They’ve become so iconic that one Wellington company has even immortalised the two presenters into tiny flatpack figurines, so anyone can keep Hilary and Jeremy in their own home, forever and ever.

These are your people today, that’s Seven Sharp tonight (Image: Abstract Design)

Neither host is entirely sure why they’ve been turned into little wooden people, or how they’ve lasted 1,000 episodes. Barry hopes it’s because viewers find them relatable – “the kind of people they’d like to have a beer at the pub with” – but Wells has another theory. “Maybe it’s because we’re just on the whole bloody time,” he laughs. “We’re like a couple of old cockroaches. Every day, there they are, they pop up on the bloody news for God’s sake and then they’ve got their own show. They just keep coming back.”

It doesn’t feel like they’ve been working together for 1,000 episodes. “It feels more like 650, or something like that,” Wells jokes. The two have a firm friendship that makes working together a pleasure, and the ever-changing nature of news means Seven Sharp has continued to evolve, with different reporters, sets and stories keeping the show feeling fresh and unique.

Hilz and Jez (Photo: TVNZ)

But things changed for Seven Sharp during the pandemic, as we turned to the television in record numbers. Seven Sharp became the cheery chaser that followed the heavy news bulletin, and regardless of how chaotic the Covid-19 world became, viewers relied on Seven Sharp to pop up every night at seven o’clock to capture the feelings of the nation and provide some much needed light relief with their lockdown haircut disasters and handy tips on how to impersonate an orca.

Wells realised how important a friendly face on the telly can be when he self-isolated just before the first lockdown in March 2020. He’d never watched Seven Sharp as a regular home viewer before, and he reckons the experience helped him understand why so many people around New Zealand regularly watch the show. “Hilary is the kind of person that makes people around her feel good,” he says. “I felt that when I watched the show. I immediately felt relieved and I felt calm and I felt reassured by her presence.”

For Barry, the most rewarding part of being a broadcaster is being with people in uncertain times, and while Seven Sharp has supported viewers during the pandemic, she says the audience supported the show in return. People send in handwritten notes and crafts, like the crocheted blankets that end up at Jeremy’s house, or intricate hand painted portrait rocks. “The time and care and love that people put into these things, and send them to us, honestly, it’s so gorgeous,” Barry says.

Get these to Te Papa (Screengrab: TVNZ)

Seven Sharp has told thousands of stories over the past four years, including Barry’s favourite tale about the bride who asked her two grandmothers to be her bridesmaids and Wells’ favourite about a West Coast icon who lives completely off grid. The most enduring story, however, is what’s going on in the background of Seven Sharp’s temporary set, like the high-tech A3 paper print outs that get stuck to the computer monitors every night as fake screensavers (and sometimes fall off mid-broadcast) or the lonely leopard-print wine bag that sits suspiciously close to Hilary Barry’s desk.

“I didn’t mean it to be in the background shot, but saw it once and thought ‘Oh dear, I probably shouldn’t have left that there, hiding the bottle of wine that I may have been about to open before we left the building’.”

The news we all need (Photo: TVNZ)

Of course, Seven Sharp hasn’t been without controversy, and most of it comes from Hilary Barry’s wardrobe. “Every time I see Hilary emerge from the dressing room in something that’s off-the-shoulder, my heart flutters,” Wells says, referring to the flood of viewer outrage Seven Sharp receives whenever Barry dons a so-called “revealing” outfit. “Who would have thought, four years and 1000 episodes ago, that wearing a dress or a blouse or some off-the-shoulder top was going to cause so much controversy and bring so much joy to so many people?”

But after 1000 episodes and nearly as many off-the-shoulder tops, Hilary and Jeremy are glad the “happy kind of accident” of being paired up in 2018 worked out the way it has. “I had a pretty good hunch that Jeremy would be good to work with, but that hunch has absolutely been proven,” Barry says. Wells reckons he couldn’t ask for a better co-host: “I feel incredibly lucky that this insane piece of luck occurred where Hilary and I were given the opportunity to do the show, and that we’re lucky enough to still be welcomed into people’s living rooms every night,” he says. “It’s a great privilege.”

Seven Sharp screens every weeknight at 7pm on TVNZ 1, and on TVNZ+.


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The Lion King Reo Māori is the second Disney film to be reworked in reo Māori (Photo: Supplied; additional design: Tina Tiller)
The Lion King Reo Māori is the second Disney film to be reworked in reo Māori (Photo: Supplied; additional design: Tina Tiller)

ĀteaJune 23, 2022

How The Lion King Reo Māori did what no other version has done before

The Lion King Reo Māori is the second Disney film to be reworked in reo Māori (Photo: Supplied; additional design: Tina Tiller)
The Lion King Reo Māori is the second Disney film to be reworked in reo Māori (Photo: Supplied; additional design: Tina Tiller)

Stan Walker’s reo Māori version of ‘Can You Feel the Love Tonight’ is the first time Elton John’s Oscar-winning song has been performed in ‘the language of the whenua’. Reweti Kohere asks producer Chelsea Winstanley how it came about.

The different language versions of Disney’s 1994 animated classic The Lion King all have something in common: when the credits roll, you hear Sir Elton John sing the reprise of ‘Can You Feel the Love Tonight’, which appears earlier in the film when Simba and Nala reconnect. It’s the song that won John and lyricist Sir Tim Rice an Oscar and a Golden Globe for best original song; the singer would win the 1995 Grammy for best male pop vocal performance and score a nomination for song of the year with it. 

The sole outlier is the 45th and latest version: The Lion King Reo Māori. Standing out for its homegrown cast of 14 voice actors, its use of various mita to represent the royal pride of lions and the joking hyenas, and the inclusion of “little haka parts” that weren’t part of the original, the reo Māori version is the first-ever adaptation to have John’s closing song translated in another language and performed by another artist, New Zealand singer Stan Walker (Tūhoe and Ngāti Tuwharetoa). An unprecedented opportunity, says Oscar-nominated producer Chelsea Winstanley, who co-directs Matewa Media – the organisation bringing to life reo Māori Disney films – but an opportunity that required “tenacity”.

Winstanley (Ngāti Ranginui, Ngai te Rangi) explains that among all the different bits and pieces Disney handed over for recording dialogue and singing, the layers for the closing credits song were missing. That was on purpose – John, it turns out, is incredibly protective of the song and has always had original vocal copyrights on any recording. “We were like ‘what? No, we can’t have all this beautiful work…and then just have one English [song]’,” the producer says. “It would be such a different āhua to the movie.”

Chelsea Winstanley at the 2020 Academy Awards (Photo: Neilson Barnard/Getty Images)

Undeterred, Matewa put together a video message with the hopes their contacts could pass it on to the ‘Rocket Man’ singer, in the belief he would understand what the organisation was trying to do. The Lion King Reo Māori is the second Disney film to be reworked in New Zealand’s indigenous language, following 2017’s Moana. The blockbuster film Frozen is set to follow suit in September, to coincide with Te Wiki o te reo Māori. Matewa is helping revitalise “the language of the whenua”, Winstanley says, while proving to Disney and other major film and animation studios that Māori versions of mainstream cinema are feasible “because there is an audience that exists and they will go to the movie theatres and they will support this.”

Getting John’s response came down to the wire. “It was two days out from actually being on the mixing stage in Burbank, in LA, before we got the yes that he was OK with it and had granted us permission,” Winstanley says. For Walker, the 1994 original means a lot: it’s his favourite movie of all time, and he auditioned for Australian Idol, the singing competition he ultimately won in 2009, with ‘Circle of Life’. He’s also had a go at ‘Can You Feel the Love Tonight’ before, with the help of Aotearoa musical trio Sole Mio.

While John’s original take is “stunning”, the opportunity to have the names of Māori on the big screen “made so much sense”, says Winstanley. As the credits rolled at The Lion King Reo Māori premier at the Civic Theatre in Tāmaki Makaurau earlier this week, with Walker’s rendition behind them, it felt like a concert. “[People] had their phones up with the light on and just everyone waving their phones in the sky,” she says. “It was just amazing.”


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