A grayscale image showing Brian Tamaki in a jacket speaking into a microphone. Surrounding him are red abstract scribbles, large quotation marks, a megaphone with a spiral design and two tiny mice. The background is a black and red geometric shape.
Brian Tamaki (Image: Tina Tiller)

OPINIONPoliticsFebruary 18, 2025

When protest isn’t peaceful, you don’t have to be a church mouse about condemning it

A grayscale image showing Brian Tamaki in a jacket speaking into a microphone. Surrounding him are red abstract scribbles, large quotation marks, a megaphone with a spiral design and two tiny mice. The background is a black and red geometric shape.
Brian Tamaki (Image: Tina Tiller)

It’s important to respect people’s right to free speech and peaceful assembly, but how much political deference is due when it isn’t peaceful?

Commenting on Destiny Church members storming a children’s event at the Te Atatū library and community centre on Saturday, prime minister Christopher Luxon said it’s important to respect people’s right to free speech and peaceful protest, but the Destiny Church protest went “too far”.

Auckland mayor Wayne Brown also caveated his response to the incident with a similar line about respecting “people’s right to free speech and peaceful protest” but gave it some oomph by calling it “thuggery”. Auckland Council CEO Phil Wilson also dialled in the right to free speech line but left his mark by calling it “outrageous” and “unacceptable”.

While it’s fair and right that leaders slightly hedge their bets when speaking publicly, waiting for facts to emerge, both Brown and Wilson were still able to be confident in their condemnation. Luxon, less so.

The protest in question was not peaceful. Footage of the incident surfaced online very quickly. Brian Tamaki’s Freedomand Rights Coalition West Auckland was live-streaming the event but has since deleted the footage. The Herald reported that the live stream showed church members “attempting to force their way up the stairs” and “two women throwing punches.”

Other media reports over the weekend described members of the church pushing, shoving and punching their way into the library, where families had gathered to attend a children’s science show hosted by drag artist Hugo Grrrl as part of Auckland Pride. The police have confirmed they are investigating allegations of assault. A 16-year-old girl attending a sports event at the community centre suffered a concussion, and 30 people, including toddlers, had to barricade themselves in a room as church members banged on the doors.

A protest with people holding signs such as "Keep politics out of the playground" and "My kids, my choice." A police officer talks to Brian Tamaki. The crowd is diverse, with trees and buildings in the background.
Brian Tamaki at a Vision NZ rally encountering a trans-rights counter-protestor, March 25, 2023 (Image: Troy Rawhiti-Connell)

Destiny Church has a history of protesting LGBTQI+ events and targeting drag performers. Auckland Pride has been on the calendar for a while. You might expect people in leadership positions to have formed some views on these matters, especially when one community in particular has been repeatedly targeted.

When there are reports of toddlers being barricaded in a room because a group of “man up” t-shirt wearers think science education is dangerous enough to justify punching your way into a community facility, tempering your response so much that it becomes an inconsequential wisp of air is giving “wet bus ticket”.

A more full-throated condemnation alongside the oft-repeated line about freedom of speech and assembly would not have required more than a beginner’s grasp of linguistics. Expressing as much concern for the people who were being targeted, intimidated and frightened as you do for the free speech rights of Destiny Church only requires basic empathy.

At his post-cabinet press conference on Monday, Luxon said the protesters had crossed the line, which was “not the Kiwi way”. Speaking in platitudes like this demonstrates Luxon’s continuing problem with authentic communication. As Stuff columnist Damien Grant observed, “Luxon has made it clear he opposes the [Treaty Principles] bill but he has failed to tell us why, nor provide any guidance on how we should navigate the complex issues it has exposed. He does not have a view on asset sales. He talks about fiscal responsibility but isn’t willing to do what is necessary to achieve it.”

In that vein, it’s fair for voters to ask what Luxon actually believes is “the Kiwi way.” What values underpin that for him, and in what way did Destiny Church’s actions breach the sacred national covenant of “our way?”

In trying to please everyone by saying not much at all (except “growth”), you please no one. Staying “on message” 24/7 slowly erodes any understanding of what you stand for, breeding a sense that, like a delicate wee reed, you may very well snap in half, falling at the slightest gust of wind.

WillySmacknTush during a drag king storytime in June 2024.

Destiny Church and others who rail against the trans community and drag performers are using what’s known as drag panic to stir up fear, division and hate. It’s a moral panic that exists in the minds of those adrift from reality, weaponising difference and the uneven playing field occupied by minority groups to infer unfounded concerns about “grooming” and “pedophilia”. There is no justification for it.

Children are most at risk of sexual abuse in their own homes or when in state, institutional or faith-based care. This country has a long list of members of the clergy who have been convicted of sexual abuse and assault crimes against children and a shameful history of abusing and neglecting children in faith-based care institutions. As far as I know, there are no equivalent lists involving drag performers. 

Sometimes, the voices of the fringe extremists riding the frothy waves of global culture war rhetoric and populism sound very loud. For those on the receiving end of their hatred, they’re deafening, but Destiny Church members numbered 1,772 at the 2018 New Zealand census, under a third of the 6,000 claimed by Tamaki. Tamaki’s Freedoms NZ party gained 9,573 votes in the 2023 election. They should not be treated as a majority voice or consequential constituency for any major party. 

On the other hand, in 2023, an Ipsos LGBT+ Pride survey showed that 84% of New Zealanders believe transgender people should be protected from discrimination in employment, housing and access to businesses. On average, a majority of New Zealanders agree that transgender teenagers should be allowed to receive gender-affirming care, that transgender people should be allowed to use single-sex facilities, such as public restrooms, that correspond to their gender and that government-issued documents such as passports should have options other than “male” and “female” for people who do not identify as either. Most New Zealanders aren’t siding with Destiny Church here. Most aren’t panicking about children being taught science at a community library by a drag king.

With all of that on your side, meekly responding to violence rooted in moral panic is the opposite of courageous or astute leadership.

What happened over the weekend wasn’t fair or peaceful, and most voters in New Zealand probably wouldn’t have minded their prime minister voicing his condemnation of a fringe group that terrified children a little bit louder than the squeak we got. Perhaps that is “the Kiwi way”.

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Simon Court has a pitch for menstruators
Simon Court has a pitch for menstruators

PoliticsFebruary 17, 2025

Exclusive: We found Act MP Simon Court’s full menstrual cup sales pitch

Simon Court has a pitch for menstruators
Simon Court has a pitch for menstruators

Alex Casey unearths Simon Court’s full sales pitch for how menstrual cups could end poverty.

On Friday last week, Act MP Simon Court was accused of “mansplaining” during a parliamentary committee hearing about benefit sanctions. After submitter Rachel Dibble shared her concerns about period poverty and the impact that sanctions could have on the “fundamental need” for young women to purchase menstrual products, Court had a question, nay, an idea, nay, a vision for how he could help.

“I’m not sure if you’re aware, or if people that you engage with are aware, of the menstrual cup, which is a reusable product available for about $15 from Chemist Warehouse,” he began. “Do you think if people knew more about how to access products like that, that this concern, this anxiety you have, might be somewhat mitigated?” 

Simon Court, menstrual ambassador

It’s easy to roll your eyes at the ignorance. Obviously it ignores the many cultural, logistical and personal reasons why menstrual cups don’t work for everyone, not to mention the fact that one $15 purchase won’t lift anyone out of poverty, or that solving period inequity shouldn’t fall on those having the roughest go of it.

But watch the footage even closer and you’ll see a glimmer of something else in Court’s eyes. Could it be that Simon Court is actually just a boy, sitting in front of a Zoom camera, trying to get a brand deal with his beloved Chemist Warehouse? And if so, shouldn’t we hear out his full sales pitch, as obtained exclusively by The Spinoff? 

Hi, I’m Simon Court: Act MP, former civil engineer and current menstruation ambassador. 

I’m not sure if you’re aware, or if people that you engage with are aware, but there’s an amazing new product that you can buy here, at Chemist Warehouse, for only $15. It’s called a menstrual cup – a cup for your menstruation – and I’m here to tell you more about how it can help empower individuals to take control of things in their own lives. 

I’m not sure if you’re aware, or if the people that you engage with are aware, but menstruation only occurs for one week every month. You probably don’t know this, but there are four weeks in every month, and 52 weeks in a year. That means that for 36 weeks, or 252 days, a simple $15 menstrual cup from Chemist Warehouse could be used in so many other amazing ways to help you save money.

Inside the dreams of Simon Court

I’m not sure if you’re aware, or if the people that you engage with are aware, but menstrual cups are made from high grade silicon, which any civil engineer worth their salt will tell you is a hugely useful material around the home. When you aren’t using it to capture the traumatic torrent of blood falling from the inside of your body, you should be aware of its alternate household uses as a thimble, a spinning top, or a bee feeder.

As a former civil engineer, I’d also like to speak to the suction properties of a menstrual cup, which I believe could allow individuals a cost-effective transport option. I’m not sure if you are aware of the documentary Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol, where Tom Cruise climbs a skyscraper with suction gloves, but I’d encourage individuals to watch it and consider how their menstrual cup could get them from A to B. 

But wait, there’s more. You probably haven’t the foggiest idea of this, but when you turn a menstrual cup upside down, it looks like a little hat. I’d encourage individuals to seek out this option as an empowering and cost-effective way to accessorise. Individuals can also access a free online resource called Pinterest, where you can find inspiring ideas around using menstrual cups as budget-friendly Christmas decorations. 

Tom Cruise modelling another use for menstrual cups

Finally, I’m not sure if you, your friends, your colleagues, or anyone you’ve ever met is aware, but a menstrual cup can hold 30ml of liquid, or the equivalent of two tablespoons. For just the one off price of $15, individuals could also use their cup as a cost-effective way to measure out ingredients, or perhaps a standard shot of vodka because some guy on Zoom reckons they are only still poor because they buy tampons. 

Alas, we didn’t get to hear any of this compelling pitch because, in reality, Court’s bold offer was immediately met with confusion, shock and objection. The submitter Rachel Dibble responded by saying that “I don’t think that a $15 menstrual cup is an answer to benefit sanctions, respectfully.” Te Pāti Māori’s Mariameno Kapa-Kingi was less restrained. “I don’t get it, why would a guy ask a woman that question? Just saying it is absolutely absurd and I object to it.” 

“It is completely disrespectful,” she continued. “It has no regard for the essence of her conversation and it is deeply offensive, not surprising but it is offensive.” The chair quickly moved on to the next item on the agenda, and Simon Court’s Chemist Warehouse dream was flushed away. If only they had been aware that, for the bargain bin price of just $15 each, they could have used their menstrual cups as ear plugs the whole time.